I've made CS that strong and a little stronger that remained colorless but it's a real crapshoot with everything optimal and a lot of luck. My record so far is around 78 uS. I don't have that batch anymore. If I recall, I contaminated it [with backwash while tasting?] after it sat around for a few months and it went deep murky purple over about a weeks time afterwards. I think the slightest little thing will turn very strong CS before it stabilises but once stabile, it stays that way... if left alone. It's really hard to know what's in any given batch of water as none of them are exactly the same even from the same distiller. For quite a while there, I was unable to make a yellow batch even when running the gen till I was bored with it, then suddenly I made a couple out of several batches made very strong that went pale yellow in a few days. Same gen. I found no 'distinct' connection between using water at .4 uS and 5 uS to the stability of the end product, so I'm assuming it's not necessarily 'how' pure the water is but more 'what' whatever the trace impurities are. I have no way of knowing what makes any given batch of water do what it does. The amount of dissolved ozone in the water seems to make a difference as I've made batches with very fresh ozonated commercially distilled water that went yellow but didn't after letting the same water outgass for a few days. [Bubbles formed on the sides of the loosely capped jug]
Perhaps running batches in short steps with time periods between steps helps. Continuous slow stirring and current control absolutely dramatically helps. Anyhow, reliable and predictable quality becomes more and more of a problem after around a 20-24 uS stopping point but it's not impossible. Ode At 01:37 PM 10/18/2004 -0400, you wrote: >CS>Floaters in CS >From: Trem (view other messages by this author) >Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 09:30:36 >http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m74101.html > > > Hi Garnet, > > > I believe the floaters are one atom thick and are floating because > > of surface tension so it appears like a lot but in actuality > > isn't. You may notice that they disappear when you pour the CS > > into another container. It's still only silver and water in the > > mix. I am unable to make colored CS with any of our automatic > > generators at the high setting. I use water we distill and also > > buy commercial DW to see how the store brands work. It always is > > crystal clear and colorless after production. As I've mentioned > > several times, we have CS that is well over 3 years old with no > > color change and a minimal drop in conductivity. I even have some > > that measures 45 uS which is still colorless. > > > Best regards, > > > Trem > > Trem, > > 45uS implies 45 ppm - this is twice the value most people get before > the cs starts turning yellow! Do you recall anything about how it > was made? Can you make it again? > > Do you think there may be something else in the cs that could be > throwing the Hanna off? Is there a possibility something was in the > dw that didn't show up during the brew, but increased the > conductivity and makes the Hanna read high? > > Finally, isn't there a circuit that measures the voltage across the > cell and shuts the generator off when it reaches the desired > conductivity? If so, how did the 45 ppm cs make it past the shutoff > setting? > > Any info you can give would be much appreciated! > > On the floaters - I get them all the time, but they don't disappear > when I pour the cs into another container. They often break through > the surface tension and sink to the bottom. > > If I add H2O2, they give off bubbles slowly for days or weeks. If I > add some more H2O2 after they stop, they start again. There may be > bubbles that seem to form from nothing on the side or bottom. This > tells me the reaction of H2O2 on pure silver is very slow, unlike > the reaction with silver oxide, which fizzes and bubbles. > >Best Wishes, > >Mike Monett > > >-- >The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > >Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > >To post, address your message to: [email protected] >Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > >Address Off-Topic messages to: [email protected] >OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html > >List maintainer: Mike Devour <[email protected]> > >
