Yep, very bad stuff. Factory workers have many times higher incidence than general population. I learned this in college in organic chemistry. That was the late 70's and there were exposes on TV that long ago.
Garnet On Thu, 2004-10-28 at 10:22, Jim Holmes wrote: > Vinyl Chloride is implicated as causing primary liver cancers. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 8:22 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: CS> > > It normally is not solvents. Normally what is outgassed from any plastic is > either > the monomer, or plasticizing agents. Soft plastics such as PVC will outgas > the > monomer such as vinyl chloride, and hard plastics that have a plasticizer > added to > them to make them soft will outgas the plasticizer. They are both especially > nasty, > usually both carcinogenic as well as immune suppressive. > > BTW, I have found that putting many plastics in the oven set to 150 F for 24 > hours > that is adding any taste to water or EIS will outgas pretty well all of it > in the > oven, and not do that after baking. > > Marshall > > Garnet wrote: > > > I was unaware of this. I was under the impression that only soft > > plastics outgassed their solvent. The thermoset plastics supposedly do > > not out gas anything. > > > > If this is true I would not use PET pastic. > > > > Garnet > > > > On Wed, 2004-10-27 at 22:36, Sally Khanna wrote: > > > Ever since Greenpeace told me that they release dioxin under light or > > > heat conditions, I'm afraid to use them (Pet plastic) too much. My > > > neighbor, who is a scientist checked it out and said it was true. > > > anyone have any comment? > > > > > > Sally > > > > > > Garnet <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I use PET bottles to collect the distilled water I make > > > because it fits > > > the set up. For my CS I do use half gallon glass canning jars. > > > I keep > > > the box they come in and store my CS in the boxes in the > > > pantry. That > > > way I always have it on hand for a high need situation and I > > > can also > > > share if someone I know gets sick. They cost $1.59 per jar at > > > my local > > > Ace Hardware, with six I get a box that stacks well and does > > > not take up > > > shelf space since I can put them on the pantry floor. I doubt > > > that PET > > > bottles are any cheaper, but they are lighter and have > > > handles. > > > > > > Garnet > > > > > > On Wed, 2004-10-27 at 16:07, Sally Khanna wrote: > > > > I have a question - why do many of you use PET plastic > > > bottles instead > > > > of glass to keep the CS in? > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Sally > > > > > > > > Dave and Gwlynda Irek wrote: > > > > T! hanks Bo for the reply. Your right I'm trying to make 20 > > > PPM > > > > - on the highest setting. I check every gallon of distilled > > > > water with my meter before I put it in the SilverGen and the > > > > average is 0.2 so I'm pretty sure my water is ok. I brought > > > > new PET plastic water jugs for the CS which I have used > > > since > > > > day one of making CS. I don't rinse them out between filling > > > > them with the next batch of CS - so they should not have any > > > > ozonation or minerals from tap water. I will try the next > > > > batch on the 12 o'clock setting and see what happens. > > > > > > > > Thanks so much for your help > > > > > > > > Gwlynda > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > > > From: bbanever [mailto:[email protected]] > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 12:37 AM > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > Subject: CS> > > > > > > > > > > > > Gwlynda - There are two potential reasons for your yellow > > > > batches of CS. Firstly you are probably trying to make a > > > > batch in the 15 - 20ppm range. Try turning the dial down to > > > > 12 o'clock so you can make a 10ppm solution. This will > > > always > > > > be clear. Secondly your water may be contaminated.... make > > > > sure the container is clean and the water is only pure > > > > distilled water with no ozonation or minerals added. > > > > > > > > Bob > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: Dave and Gwlynda Irek > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 8:24 PM > > > > Subject: CS> > > > > > > > > I have been making CS with my SilverGen Pro 9 for > > > > about 2 months now. All my 5 gallon batches of CS has > > > > been clear until the last 2 - 5 gallons batches. The > > > > CS is yellow before I even get it out of the > > > > SilverGen. I turn the unit off as soon as it is > > > > finished and remove the silver and pump. Let the > > > > CS settle for a few m! inutes then pour it into a PET > > > > plastic water jug. Can someone tell me why my CS is > > > > turning yellow during and right after the unit turn > > > > off? > > > > > > > > Gwlynda > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > > > > From: Jim Holmes [mailto:[email protected]] > > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 10:27 AM > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > Subject: RE: CS>question... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Barrett is the quack. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no citation in the medical literature of > > > > electro-colloidal silver, made with pure silver and > > > > pure water, causing Argyria. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have personally tried to have a dialog with that > > > > duck, and he is not willing to have one. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hulda Clark just successfully sued his ass. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > JOH > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----> From: sid aust > > > [mailto:[email protected]] > > > > Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 8:19 PM > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > Subject: CS>question... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am new to the forum and wondering what the side > > > > effects of taking CS. I just read one of Dr Barrett's > > > > article on how it will turn you grey and all kinds of > > > > bad stuff..and of course Dr Barrett is against > > > > everything good in alternative medicine..you can fine > > > > him on the quack forum... > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > Sid > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > > Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. > > > > > > > > > -- > > > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal > > > Silver. > > > > > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: > > > http://silverlist.org > > > > > > To post, address your message to: [email protected] > > > Silver List archive: > > > http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > > > > > Address Off-Topic messages to: > > > [email protected] > > > OT Archive: > > > http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html > > > > > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. > > > > >
