Hi JJ: Even the humidifiers work.
To clarify, I have experimented with: 1. The Brooks Bradley Oxgyen Nebulizer 2. The Omron Ultrasonic Nebulizer 3. The Omron Compressor Nebulizer 4. A cheap Walgreens ultrasonic humidifier 5. Even a nice little water pick http://www.silvermedicine.org/silver-lung-study.html The reference above, which documents silver retention in the lungs of rats, highlights an important point. Not only do smaller "atomized" particles maintain the oligodynamic properties associated with EIS, but the smallest possible particles also help to ensure that there is no silver retention in the lungs. When I first did my research on commercial units over a year ago, I found a website that compared the atomized particle sizing of popular nebulizer units. The Omron Ultrasonic was the superior model. Research done by Stephen Quinto, utilizing TEM comparisons, demonstrated that a pneumonic nebulizer actually changed the particle distribution in sol, while the ultrasonic nebulizers ( specifically the Omron ) did not demonstrably effect the CS after nebulization. One might stretch one's imagination and consider the idea that water droplets in air actually create a temporary colloidal state. At any rate, imagination aside, a water droplet maintains its own very fine electrical state. The humidifiers do a great job in coating the bronchial tubes. People have problems with bronchial infections and nebulizing CS because they sometimes neglect to realize that nebulizing closely resembles an "external" treatment, and one must continually keep the silver "at location" to maintain effectiveness. When conditions get severe, to the point that lung capacity is greatly reduced ( and breathing deeply is torturous if not nearly impossible ), there is no substitute for the oxygen nebulizer delivered at 20 PSI, especially for lower lobe lung infections such as the often lethal varieties of pneumonia, where one also has to content with fluid buildup. In such cases, it is critical that nebulization occur especially after sleeping, where the body has been in a horizontal position for a considerable amount of time, as gravity has effected the fluids in the lungs, and at this point it is often much easier to get the CS saturated deep in the lungs. Best Regards, Jason ----- Original Message ----- From: "J J" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 10:24 PM Subject: RE: CS>Hoping for direct answers > Garnet writes, > > >If this is the design that uses an ultrasonic humidifier then it is not a > >nebulizer at all. The size of the droplet is not small enough to reach into > >the bronchioles. An ultrasonic humidifier produces too large of a droplet > >to penetrate deep into the lungs to the site of infection. Most of the > >vapor will condense in the trachea and the upper bronchi because the > >droplets from this type of unit are > >too large. > > Hiya Garnet, > > Firstly, doesn't air exchange in the lungs take place across > the walls of the alveolus, not the bronchioles? So wouldn't > an inhaled particle first have to pass through those walls > before getting to the bloodstream? > > Secondly, wouldn't a droplet of inhaled mist of ANY > reasonably small size contain ions of silver? Assuming of > course, that EIS/CS was the liquid in the nebulizer or > ultrasonic humidifier. And when a mist droplet hits an > alveolar sac, won't the sac walls absorb those silver ions > with ease? After all, oxygen molecules are absorbed quite > easily and they are bigger in diameter than silver ions. > > Thirdly, I use an ultrasonic humidifier to mist my EIS. It's > a Sunbeam model #697. I've connected a flexible PVC tube > that runs from the mist port which places the mist directly > at my nose or mouth. If I inhale the mist deeply via nose or > mouth and then immediately exhale, I can see a brief puff of > mist exiting my mouth. To me this means the EIS mist is > getting all the way into my lungs. If I hold my breath for > even just a couple of seconds and then exhale, no puff of > mist can be seen. To me this means that either most of the > inhaled mist has condensed on lung tissue or that it has > turned into clear water vapor, making it even more likely to > be absorbed. > > Fourthly, my bronchial and lung issues have dropped to > zero since I started daily use of this wonderful and cheap > ultrasonic tool. > > It might be more complicated than this but I'm having a > little trouble understanding why the mist droplet diameter > is so important when the droplet contains ionic-sized > particles. As well, I doubt that any store-bought nebulizer > can make mist droplets that are the size of silver ions. > > Jimmy Joe > > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: [email protected] > Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > Address Off-Topic messages to: [email protected] > OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour <[email protected]> > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.769 / Virus Database: 516 - Release Date: 09/25/2004
