Yellow isn't "bad". colorless is just better. If it's a pale yellow andf there is a fairly strong TE, that means that the vast majority of particles are in the colorless range. [TE...particles shining in a laser beam or direct light source such as a strong bright flashlight.] Many things can cause agglomeration and other effects.
1] Some trace contamination in the water or container. [Some contaminants can actually impregnate glass..plastic is worse for that.] Copper can pull every bit of silver out of the water and drop it on the bottom in black fluffy deposits..takes a while. Iron can make a grey precipitate form. Saliva backwash [from chugging from the storage container] can make it go violet, even reddish in color. [Takes a few days to react generally] Traces of some ammonium based chemicals can turn a batch brown instantly. [Not sure if it's the ammonium that does that or something else that might be in there.] Soap scum, dishwasher anti spotting agents, cleaning solution over spray, sulpher dioxide or salt air in the air [Coal fired power plant nearby? Live near the ocean?]......about anything 'can' have an effect. Finger oils sometimes have detrimental compounds. Local environments change...even the phase of the moon or sunspot radiation, high UV day.. 'might' kick a batch over the edge now and then. [????] Usually, with all things 'actually' remaining the same and nothing overlooked, washing and rinsing everything with distilled water cures problems. 2] Really high ozone levels in the water [all distilled water I've seen is ozonated..not usually a problem. Let the water sit loosely capped for a few days. If you see bubbles form on the sides, it's probably ozone being outgassed] 3] Too high a temperature during processing..over around 120 deg F [ Don't pre heat the water] The thermal stir setup sheds heat off the container sides almost as fast as it gains it from the center bottom. When using the inverted funnel, it can sometimes cause a yellowish batch now and then. It forces the water up through a pretty narrow channel and may cause some localized heat buildup. [Switch to a 4 watt bulb..gold colored base -vs- 7 watt bulb..silver colored base] I'm not sure what you mean by "grey". It could just be a very high colorless particle count. The appearance will be different under different types of light. [direct sunlight/ diffused incandecent light etc] A few drops of hydrogen peroxide will clear most any color out by breaking the particles up within a few hours. They will still be particles and the water may have a sort of grey appearance afterwards. A bit of murkyness means there's lots of them with a lot of surface area to reflect light. If you put a drop or so of peroxide in a very freshly made batch, it will make mega numbers of particles which will make the CS look a bit milky or grey heading towards brownish in the center where light has trouble penetrating. [Part of that is oxygen and/or hydrogen gas release and clears up some after a while] ..don't let peroxide get anywhere near the generator. [makes very pretty silver flakes] I think that commercially distilled water is required to be sterilized. Most distillers use ozone to accomplish that, but some might use peroxide? I assume you didn't use different water? [even if it's the same brand from the same store, one jug isn't always the same as the last one. I think maybe that not all the 'jugs' are the same either.] If the water level isn't high enough, the generator will make the CS stronger at a higher current density...a double whammy for going yellow. ode At 03:50 PM 12/17/2004 -0800, you wrote: > >hello gurus, > >i get that the darker the cs is the larger the particles are. and that the >larger the particles = the less penetrable the cs is in our bodies = the >less beneficial "action" it can engage. > >i just succeeded in making my first 2 batches that stayed clear all the way >through brewing it (using a thermal stir generator from coyote) AND after >decanting it AND after opening the bottle a few times AND after adding the >new batch to it. my following batches again went bad = amber or grey. have >no idea why the two batches worked. EVERYTHING that i can see was/is the >same. > >in preparation for the possibility that i'll have to just accept it and use >dark cs in lieu of the ideal - what i'm hoping to learn from you still is >HOW "unbeneficial" exactly un-clear cs is? does it depend on the color? >amber vs. grey vs. blue etc.? it seems it would depend on the darkness >too, right? > >and also, what exactly causes the particles to agglommerate? i mean, what >happens in the water to draw them to eachother versus repell them? i think >if i understood this process, it would be easier for me to find the cause. > >any "plain english" input will be eagerly awaited ! > >thanks, >angel > > > > > >-- >The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > >Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > >To post, address your message to: [email protected] >Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > >Address Off-Topic messages to: [email protected] >OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html > >List maintainer: Mike Devour <[email protected]> > > > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.5.4 - Release Date: 12/15/2004 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. 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