Mike Monett wrote:

> CS>Update on flu/cold that did not respond well to EIS
> From: Marshall Dudley (view other messages by this author)
> Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 12:48:00
> http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m76999.html
>
>   > I am  still not sure if it is the silver oxide or  the  very small
>   > silver  particles   that   are   causing   the   greatly increased
>   > effectiveness, or it could be both. But I guess it  really doesn't
>   > matter, thing  is, this really works! Note, I believe  this should
>   > be used  with  EIS  that is not much greater  than  10  ppm, since
>   > silver oxide has a solubility limit of about 13 ppm.
>
>   > Marshall
>
>   Marshall,
>
>   You are overlooking the most obvious answer. The H2O2  converts some
>   of the silver oxide and hydroxide back to silver ions (Ag+).

That makes no sense. Dissolved silver oxide and silver hydroxide are
already ions (Ag+).  What do you mean it converts silver ions to silver
ions?  It is impossible to have silver ions Ag+ without something else
being a (-), and in the case of freshly made EIS is it the OH- radical.  So
we start with silver hydroxide, which is a silver ion, and convert to
silver oxide, which is also an ion.  What you are saying does not compute.

> I have
>   already posted the equations and won't repeat them again.
>
>   It is easy to prove. Your milk test showed what is happening.

How?  It showed that ionic silver alone (silver hydroxide for the ionic
EIS) was better than medium sized particles alone in the EIS.  It also
showed that small particle sized colloid plus silver oxide was much much
better than simply the silver hydroxide portion of EIS.  We need to do more
tests to determine exactly what the deal is on the one with H2O2 added.

>
>
>   There is a much easier way to accomplish the same thing. Just  buy a
>   Silvergen or Silverpuppy that makes mostly ionic cs.

Accomplish what thing?

>
>
>   BTW, responding to one of your posts, my chemistry is excellent.
>
>   My cs  has  been killing flu and cold viruses, cold  sores,  and the
>   Shingles virus for years. (Caution: the following page shows graphic
>   photos of the effect of the Shingles virus:)
>
>     http://www.geocities.com/mrmonett/shingles/0shin.htm

Mine has as well.  But the H2O2 makes it even better.  By the way the my
daughter was not using my EIS when she was trying to fight off the flu, she
was using Trem's SG6, which makes virtually identical EIS to the Silver
Puppy. She was only able to get the fever to break after adding the H2O2,
just like I was using HVAC EIS.

Also the milk experiment proves that addition of H2O2 increases the
effectiveness tremendously.  It went for so long before souring it ended up
getting maggots in it and I had to throw it out. Never did sour.  Insatead
of adding 20 or so hours to the sour time it added over 100.

>
>
>   And I don't need H2O2 to make it work:)

We are talking about effectiveness. Everyone knows that EIS works. But how
well?  If one teaspoon of EIS with H2O2 is is a effective as a cup of EIS,
then that is good to know, especially for things that are difficult to take
care of with EIS.

I have gone for 7 years without a cold or flu using plain EIS, but this
last one just did not respond to EIS without the H2O2.  The same thing
could happen to you, especially since the same thing happened to my
daughter, and she is using EIS from a SG6 that is virtually identical to
what a Silver Puppy produces.

>
>
>   P.S. There are no silver particles in cs. Only ions and oxides.

Why do you keep saying this, there is ample proof that you are wong on
this.  Ions will show no tyndall, yet a laser will show tyndall, so that
alone proves that there is more than just silver compounds that dissolve.
That means there has to be particles, plus it can be proved by many
methods, all which support that there are particles. The Tyndall for
example, if you add salt, that will convert all silver hydroxide and silver
oxide to silver chloride, and if you let it settle out, you still have the
tyndall, if you add ammonia that will convert all ionic silver (the
hydroxide, oxides and chlorides) to fulminating ammonia, which dissolves,
and the tyndall remains, if you put it in a scanning photospectrometer, and
get the absortption spectrum of EIS, it fits perfectly with the published
absorption spectum of silver particles. I have done all these things. I
have offered lots of proof, and experiments anyone can do to prove it
themselves, but you continue to ignore all published scientific papers and
facts, and experimental evidence and make this unsubtantiated ridiculous
claim.  As I said in an earlier message, if you think this is the case,
supply some proof, papers to back it up, some data that supports it, or
some experimental evidence that supports it.

Marshall

>
>
> Mike Monett
>
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