... The promise of electromedicine and silver is absolutely astounding.
The best practical example is with the treatment of subdermal cystic conditions, which resist almost any direct treatment modalities. However, there are big concerns with the amount of current being delivered into the body, and the path(s) through tissues, i.e. the travel of current in the body... It is very easy to induce localized argyria by using too much current and silver when working with damaged tissue; I have a tiny grey/black spot on my face which was the result of my early experimentations which did not include proper current control... I was just too excited to test ideas, and just couldn't help myself! *grins* Where I went wrong with my zealous haste: The first few seconds were fine; I wasn't using a conductive gel; the "tingling sensation" which followed was interesting, and I wanted to explore the feeling; and I had tested normal healthy tissue first, on the arm, and had no problem; I didn't realize how greatly current travel could differ between healthy and damaged/healing tissues. I didn't want the experiment to fail, so I continued despite the sensations which would normally serve as "warning". My mistake, made a few years ago, which I like to view rather as a great and fun learning experiment, is easy to avoid. All of the devices I currently have still can produce too much current; the current is fine for tissues that are healthy, but with damaged tissue, the conductivity increases, and dramatically. The ideal device would allow absolute current control, according to the specs laid out by Dr. Robert O. Becker, and be used with a conductive gel and two silver electrodes. The electrode spacing should be adjusted to the edges of the area being treated. DC current should be used, with a pulsing mechanism to help control the current travel ( paths of current flow ) in the body ( we only want to deliver a small amount of silver ions into the body, not utilize the current and electricity for therapuetic purposes ). Based only upon my rough estimates from personal experience, it takes between 2-5 seconds for paths of current to be established in the body's tissues. 10 second pulses, I estimate, would be about right if one is using the "proper" amount of current, with, perhaps, two second pauses... HOWEVER, this is based only upon my subjective and limited experimentation, and much more work needs to be done. All of that said, my experimentations to date HAVE been amazingly effective. Bacteria and virii can be effectively killed using "silver iontophoresis", where silver applied topically fails. However, I still do not have a device that performs the way I'd like it to; potentiometers can be used to allow "scalable" adjustments to the amount of current being delivered, and there should be an "indicator" that indicates when a circuit has actually been established. We then need to study the miminal amount of current flow required to effectively deliver silver ions to the "treatment area". This will, likely, vary from situation to situation. I like to leave the "engineering" of such things to those who are proficient in engineering. Such devices exist, but they are wildly over-priced, at least for "my" purposes! It should be possible to deliver silver ions directly into the bloodstream utilizing silver iontophoresis. My "advice" to those who would experiment with such things is to read "Body Electric" and "Cross Currents", by Dr. Robert O. Becker, VERY carefully, and take his word as golden. TENS units were produced based entirely upon his work, and it should be noted that Dr. Becker DID NOT agree with the amount of current being delivered into the body via these devices. Dr. Becker was trying to emmulate the amount of current that is NATURALLY used by the body. His methodology was easier, as he was a surgeon, and could actually implant the silver electrodes in the body. The state of his works is both sad and heroic. He likely saved many, many lives in New York ( see "Cross Currents" ), but it cost him both his lab, and his funding, when he was on the brink of true organ regeneration in humans. His work will not be completed unless an independent researcher with a good amount of financial resources completes it. While Dr. Becker is still publishing, his ability to actually do research is now quite limited, even if he was given the resources. On more than one occasion, I've literally begged for independant analysis and funding for independent research centering upon his works. The world is not interested, and when they are, they tend to distort his original findings... seeking an "easier, softer way" than the truth. Best Regards, Jason ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ode Coyote" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 11:25 AM Subject: Re: CS>tetrasil > Jason has been looking into it for a while. > Ode > > At 09:04 PM 1/20/2005 +1000, you wrote: > > > >At 10:05 PM 18/01/05, you wrote: > > > >>I think I'll try iontophorisis soon by wrapping silver wires around the > >>wetted toe and applying a little current. [Direct 'on site' silver > >>generation and injection through the skin...and blood electrification by > >>default] > >> > >>Ode > > > >Wow, Ode, I'll be interested to see the results of that. Sounds like a mix > >of T.E.N.S. concept and REALLY fresh EIS. I'd never HEARD of > >"iontophoresis" before but there it is in my magic little helper > >http://www.wordweb.info - I knew the process but not the new word! :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > >The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > > >Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > > >To post, address your message to: [email protected] > >Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > > >Address Off-Topic messages to: [email protected] > >OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html > > > >List maintainer: Mike Devour <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > >-- > >No virus found in this incoming message. > >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > >Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.1 - Release Date: 1/19/2005 > > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.1 - Release Date: 1/19/2005 > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.13 - Release Date: 01/16/2005 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. 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