Bailar wrote: > A while back we were discussing bladder infections. Brooks Bradley said > that colloidal silver plus DMSO could be instilled in the bladder. He > said "We have found that utilizing DMSO mixed with CS produces a very > acceptable control response." When I inquired on more information, I was > upset by his response. He told me "We are a research group"--I guess he > means the silver list. "I cannot olunteer the exact methodologies > utilised by our experimenters" etc. Why not?
I'm afraid you haven't been around long enough to know Brooks' background. He is a principal in a private research organization, and often shares with us on the Silver List various useful results from that group's studies. He is, however, careful not to attempt to prescribe or offer specific advice to individuals, thus his caution. Since every tidbit he's ever shared with the Silver List has been of great value, we rather treasure his participation! > Who are the experimenters? How are we supposed to help each other if we > don't know the exact methods, and how quickly those people improved? Normally Brooks' guidance is specific enough that anyone can, with reasonable study, duplicate the essentials of the work for themselves. In this specific case, there are a number of books on DMSO that will give you the specifics of the treatment protocol. It happens that the only medically approved use for DMSO is in treating a certain bladder condition -- ummm, interstitial cystitis, I think. Adding CS to that protocol is a no-brainer substitution of CS for the water used to dilute the DMSO to the proper concentration. DMSO is sufficiently versatile that it is *well* worth the effort to buy a book or two on its use. (That assumes that Brooks will *not* be forthcoming with additional information -- which I doubt will be the case.) > He suggested finding a doctor willing to do this--I don't know any such > doctors. He said "Your physician should be quite capable of performing > this..." Actually, most physicians, both primary and alternative, that > I know of do not catheterize people. Urologists do it. Maybe > gynecologists do sometimes, who knows. Given the fact that there is a medically approved use for DMSO in bladder disease, all you'd need to do would be find a brand of colloidal silver that is certified for medical use. There are a couple. (Not FDA approved for treatment of disease, but made to the standards required for such use, and in a certified facility.) Then, if you can find a physician who's truly comfortable with alternatives -- as hard as that is -- they ought to be persuadable. > In addition, I began to wonder about the sterility of the CS. Tho CS is > antimicobrial, even so, you should be using a completely sterile > solution instilling anything in the bladder. Storebought or homemade CS > is not necessarily sterile in the sense of instilling it or injecting > it. DMSO comes in a sterile bottle (RIMSO does anyway). For injection or intravenous use, you're correct. I believe it needs to be sterile as well as pyrogen free. (I think that's the term.) Whether the latter is important for use in the bladder, I'm unsure. > I'd really like some references if anybody has them, as to anybody who > has actually done this procedure, or postings from people who have > done it. As I had mentioned, I have a relative who, due to some kind of damage to his bladder, has to catheterize himself several times a day in order to void. This, of course, leads to a vulnerability to bladder infections. He has instilled home-made CS alone through the catheter using a syringe a number of times and seen rapid results. He takes CS daily as a preventative as well, so full blown bladder infections are relatively rare for him. Adding DMSO, at the appropriate concentration, would be simple. > It was the first post on this list that really frustrated me--saying > there is a very successful treatment but then putting up all these > caveats. He also ened the post by saying that "We are informed that, > historically, physicians have favorable results." Can somebody tell > me, who is "we" and who informed them? It's best to direct your frustration toward the regulatory regime that forces all of us to walk on eggshells for fear of being accused of unlicensed practice of medicine. The penalties are no laughing matter. Neither major party seems inclined to do anything to improve the situation (speaking of the US, of course). > This post was from Brooks. Is he part of a research group himself. > Whoever informed him of the positive results might be able to give me > more information or put me in touch with the physicians themselves. Yep, you got it. I think there's already enough information published to yield the references you're looking for. Check with www.dmso.org and get the book(s) by Stanley Jacobs and his collaborators. > TIA. Frankly, I like the idea of ozone gas which is also broad spectrum > antimicrobial and penetrates tissues, better than the above approach but > I'd like to know who does it, or has done it, or have some more specific > information to research it. Thanx. Ozone is on my list of things to look into, as well. I hope that helps. Be well, Mike D. 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