Info wrote:

> Marshall wrote:
>
> > .....and Steve's work indicates that colloidal
> > silver, at least the meso silver product, does not kill pathogens, so we
> > are
> > kind of back where we started.
>
> Given Quinto's past history of "scientific" claims for his ionic product
> such as "Each drop yields more than 100,000,000 million particles of pure
> silver that possess energia." The word "energia" is a make-believe word that
> has no definition on his website or in the known universe. This is called
> techno-babble; the use of technical sounding words to impress the
> non-technical reader.
>
> Furthermore, Quinto continues to promotes his ionic product by the use of
> TEM images that he claims show proof of the small particles in the product
> when in reality they only show particles of silver oxide formed during
> sample preparation.
> See: http://www.silver-colloids.com/Pubs/TEM.html
>
> In a court room the jury must always ascertain the credibility of a witness.
>
> How can one attribute any credibility to Quinto's bacteriology studies when
> confronted with his past and still current use of bogus science to promote
> his product. A prudent observer may find it difficult to believe anything he
> says.
>
> On the other hand, one of the largest and most respected testing
> laboratories in the country (EMSL) has performed pathogen challenge tests on
> Mesosilver designed to the most rigorous scientific standards. For those who
> don't know what "rigorous scientific standards" for pathogen testing means;
> the tests must be performed in triplicate, with plating in duplicate and
> results shown as "means" and "standard deviations". This is required for
> "publication quality", meaning no scientific publication would consider
> publishing your paper if the tests were no up to this standard. It is also
> the standard required by the FDA for pharmaceutical testing.
>
> The Mesosilver test results prove beyond the slightest doubt that Mesosilver
> killed every pathogen it was tested on.  Here are the tests:
>  http://www.silver-colloids.com/Pubs/biostudies.html
>

Thank you for that link.  I was initially puzzled why the kill time was so long,
since tests we had run at UT with a 5 ppm HVAC EIS killed everything in a matter
of minutes. Then I noticed that the test was done in agar.  As I have noted
before our tests in agar showed the effectiveness drops way off from what is
obtained if tests are done in a thin medium due to the immobalization of the
silver particles..

The .35% sodium chloride is a good idea.

Anyway, that certainly makes my previous analysis make more sense.  If indeed
some portion of ionic silver does make it into the blood and get converted to
silver particles, then that could explain why ionic silver can work, even though
none can be detected in the blood.

Marshall



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