Re: CS>Silver-Colloids responds
From: Ode Coyote
Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 05:32:15
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  Mike Monett wrote:

  >>> 5. what tests were done to detect silver in the blood?

  >> That is a good question. Anyone know where these tests  were run?
  >> Were they run by Frank or Steve?

  >> Marshall

  > Tests were done by Frank with an ion selective probe. He  found no
  > ions of silver.

  > If he  also  tested  for  silver as  a  metallic  particle  or the
  > presence of  silver in any other form, I don't know and  he didn't
  > say.

  > That in itself is a bit of a strange ommission.

  > Ode

  For those unfamiliar with ISE's, here is an excellent introduction

  "A guide to ion selective measurement"

  http://www.tecservice.com.ar/Documentos/folletos/Gumedicislectivo.pdf

  Trem posted  a  brief review of Ivan's  comments  on  Roger Altman's
  study on  what  happens  to colloidal  silver  after  it  enters the
  bloodstream:

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  Here's what Ivan had to say on the subject some time ago.

  "Well, I  was  bound to comment on the  ionic  vs  elemental colloid
  thread eventually...

  "Firstly the idea that silver ions precipitate out in the alimentary
  tract, and  never make it to the blood stream, is  pure speculation.
  This theory  is  most  eloquently proposed  by  Purest  Colloids who
  market a product of high elemental colloid percentage.

  "However the  theory,  I  believe, is  pretty  much  debunked  by an
  article which  is (ironically) found on the  Purest  Colloids sister
  web site:

  http://www.silver-colloids.com/Papers/AltmanStudy.PDF

  "This study was written by Roger Altman (who used to grace this list
  with his not inconsiderable presence) and details the elimination vs
  ingestion of what would be a high ionic percentage CS. He found that
  pretty much  what  is ingested is what comes out,  and  that  a high
  percentage comes  out in the urine. Now these ions did not  get into
  the urine  by  precipitating  out and  not  getting  into  the blood
  stream, obviously the blood stream is exactly where they ended up.

  "The fact  that  a high percentage of ingested ions  emerged  in the
  urine also suggests that little is bound in the tissues (at least in
  this case) which further suggests that in order to  develop argyria,
  a large  amount  of silver must be  consumed,  and/or  specific (and
  unusual?) circumstances are present, such as deficiencies in vitamin
  E and/or selenium (or perhaps overdose of selenium, as  suggested by
  some research).

  [...]

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  Many people use sublingual absorption, then spit the cs out.  I find
  this to  be  an  extremely  effective way  of  getting  cs  into the
  bloodstream. Since  it  is   not   swallowed,  it  cannot  enter the
  alimentary tract and be eliminated. It has to exit via the urine.

  So if  Frank  coudn't  find the ions, it  may  be  a  measurement or
  instrumentation problem. They are definitely present in the blood.

Regards,

Mike Monett


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