Marshall Wrote: "The number of credible studies that disprove this claim are numerous. American BioTech's studies demonstrated silver to be fatal to malaria, tuberculosis, Bubonic plague, Staphylococcus aureus, Candida albicans yeast, the Trichomonas vaginalis bacteria and anthrax."
I think Trich is actually a protozoan. Jim -----Original Message----- From: Terry Chamberlin [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 7:44 AM To: [email protected] Subject: CS>CS effectiveness [email protected] wrote: I am posting a response from another list I'm on, which rebutted my statements regarding Colloidal Silver (on that list). >>When some friends of mine found out I was using CS with success on some tough problems, they gently took me aside and cleared up some misconceptions. Because they both worked at MIT, and the wife went on to teach at Princeton (electron microscopy in determining cell response to disease) and the husband is now head of a company developing carbon nanosphere technology as a step beyond MRI imaging, I take their understanding as sound! >> As most of us on this list have discovered, impressive-sounding credentials don't guarantee accuracy or credibility. >> CS, despite being called "nature's antibiotic", has no effect on fungal, baterial or viral pathogens. I have a copy of Brigham Young Universities studies that show differently. Marshall responded: Where did they get that idea. Did they run tests, and if so what was the protocol? I personally had tests run at University of Tennessee and determined that it has a lot of effect. Others have run tests and many of them are posted on the net, and none of them ever showed no effect. >> The mechanism by which CS "works" is this: Silver (and also gold, which you can also buy as a colloid) are inert metals as far as the body is concerned - no reaction. When a virus, for instance, enters a cell, the mitochondria of the cell are attracted to it and attach to the virus. The virus borrows the DNA from the mitochondria - it's necessary for the virus to do so in order to reproduce. When silver is present in the cells in the particle size that mimics a virus (and this is why particle size is very important) the mitochondria attach to the silver and become "busy" - they can't attach to the virus. Hence, virus can't reproduce and so die. Less virus present, less inflammatory response from the body. There's no inherent "immunity" with silver itself, and it doesn't "kill" virus, bacteria, or fungus, but it maintains the integrity of the cell by keeping it "busy" or "plugged". >> Marshall responds: Where did this information come from? Never heard it before. Is there any experimental evidence to back it up? If it doesn't kill bacteria, then why does every test I know of that has ever been run on it with bacteria show a high or 100% kill rate? >>Silver doesn't have any effect on a pathogen, so it can't "suffocate" or "kill" it. But the above explanation does lend itself to the idea of building an "immunity", although I doubt a scientist would agree with that interpretation. >> The number of credible studies that disprove this claim are numerous. American BioTech's studies demonstrated silver to be fatal to malaria, tuberculosis, Bubonic plague, Staphylococcus aureus, Candida albicans yeast, the Trichomonas vaginalis bacteria and anthrax. See: http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/archive/September2003/04/c7099.html http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/archive/September2002/16/c1055.html http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/archive/February2003/24/c3100.html http://www.burnsurgery.org/Betaweb/Modules/silver/section1.htm >>The recommended 8-10 ppm is in line with what they know about this action - you don't want too much or too little. You do need the volume that dilution to 8-10ppm creates in order to disperse it through the body - because a percentage of it is going to be lost in the digestive tract or otherwise eliminated. If making your own, there are some issues - if you don't have rather sophisticated equipment you can't be sure of the particle size or concentration. >> The success of folks with MS and cancer by drinking copious quantities (16-24 oz/day) negates the idea that one must be careful to take just the right amount. Roger Altman's study demonstrated the non-accumulation of properly made CS, thereby establishing that the body simply disposes of unused CS. >>Their feeling is that what you are making is actually silver salts, not colloidal silver. >> Marshall responded: That is impossible. A salt requires an anion, and there is none present in distilled water. These guys need to study chemistry. When supposedly knowledgeable people make statements that are poor science or pseudo-science, it becomes hard to take them seriously. >>I said - "and yet it works for the people who make it" and they said that sufficient amounts in an adequate particle size (through volume) could still be getting where they need to go. >> This supports Altman's findings that there is no dangerous amount. For someone to make claims about CS without being able to substantiate those claims with hard, legitimate research is as illegitimate as those folks who claim CS cures everything __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: [email protected] Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: [email protected] OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour <[email protected]>
