Excellent summary.

Thanks,

Marshall

"M. G. Devour" wrote:

> Jim intones:
> > Science by implication.
>
> Marmar writes:
> > Oh, well.  Thank God we've got THAT sorted out.     MA
>
> I think what James is doing such a lousy job of defending, Mary Ann, is
> that the claims that CS somehow spares "good" bacteria are one of the
> common myths that we have long ago studied (and discussed ad nauseum,
> of course!) and dismissed.
>
> The logic is this:
>
> There is no bacterium of any sort that CS won't kill, except a few
> really strange bugs that have been discovered living in silver-rich
> mineral deposits in the ground. Even those *lost* their immunity after
> a few generations of culture in a normal environment. None are
> pathogenic to humans, as far as we know.
>
> That info has come out over the years from scientific publications that
> people have brought to our attention.
>
> Although the "kills 650 pathogens" is poorly understood and even more
> poorly documented marketing hype, it still represents a general truth.
>
> Second, laboratory tests using nutrient agar plates have been used a
> number of times to demonstrate that CS does *NOT* work. The problem is
> that once the agar gels, the silver is immobilized and never reaches
> the bacteria. The same tests done in nutrient broth media show what you
> expect: CS kills everything, fast, at surprisingly low concentrations.
>
> More references that I couldn't cite, but clearly remember passing
> through the discussion.
>
> Finally... People have taken modest quantities of CS on a regular basis
> without disrupting their flora. *AND* people have taken CS in
> sufficient quantities to disrupt the flora after all, including me.
> Lastly, CS has been used by people with massive diarrhea and it has
> settled them down.
>
> This was mostly anecdotal evidence from our members.
>
> The inference from all of that is that CS kills the bugs it can get to,
> and that, in a solid medium, it loses much of its effectiveness as it
> loses mobility.
>
> CS indeed can be taken in reasonable quantities without disrupting the
> flora. Other people have observed this and reached the same conclusion
> we have in that regard. However, what has happened is that some folks
> have latched onto the wrong explanation as to *why* this is so, and so
> the myth gets passed around the industry in marketing blurbs written by
> people who are just repeating what they've read, but not understood.
>
> And to answer one question you asked, I think I've heard it said by
> people who've tried it, that doses on the order of a few pints were
> sufficient to transit the empty intestines and control whatever bug was
> causing the diarrhea.
>
> I hope that explains the issue.
>
> Now, as for *you* James... <scowl>
>
> <LOL>
>
> Be well,
>
> Mike D.
>
> [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
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