Hi Dave.
What amazes me is that they can still make those crates cheaper than sending 
them back. No wonder we have a trade deficit.
You might want to look at the way they build houses in Brasil. They use 
brick,rebar and concrete. Now if you were to make you own bricks and mix your 
own concrete you would have a house, not in a earthquake area though. They even 
brick the inside walls. The inside walls are non supporting (similar to a 
office building with a false ceiling). After the brick they will put a concrete 
type of stucco on or tile it.  Very easy to work with.

Sam l.




 --- On Sun 11/13, Dan Nave < [email protected] > wrote:
From: Dan Nave [mailto: [email protected]]
To: [email protected]
Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 22:46:37 -0600
Subject: CS  >Re: CSOde? Anyone? Ecologically sustainable housing??

You may want to fumigate the Chinese shipping crates before using to getrid of 
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10:32:21 ESTTo: [email protected] did I hear that you built your own 
house? Are you in the US?My husband and I are thinking of moving at the first 
of the year andrather than buying an existing house we are throwing around the 
idea ofbuilding one out of used/retired Chinese shipping crates.We need a pool 
because of his paralysis and I want to use ozone waterrather than chlorine.The 
people on this list are Oh! so wise! any ideas and words of wisdomfor solar 
panels vs.  wind generators, water purifiers, well water andcisterns etc?We 
also toyed with the idea of buying a retired ATT underground facilityor NIKE 
site but they are hard to find and are often prone to floodingand government 
use restrictions.  We may end up inheriting one.  In 
thiscase we will build a shipping crate house on top.  Any input on 
housebuildin is appreciated.Harper-- No virus found in this outgoing 
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