Robert Berger wrote:
> Marshall, I violently object to the phrase, "all medical literature > indicates that argyria is caused by ionic silver." I have seen that > phrase used too many time to obfuscate the facts. > > > Why do you object to the facts? Can you name any other form of silver > besides a salt or compound that can cause argyria and the process by > which it could do so? I have given the process by which silver salts > and compounds cause argyria many times here. There is no known way > that metallic silver (colloid or not) or silver that does not dissolve > in water can cause argyria. It is known that breathing in silver dust > can cause argyria, but if you follow the mechanism you will find that > the body produces H2O2 in the lungs which oxidizes the silver to > silver oxide, which then converts to a combination of silver oxide and > silver hydroxide when absorbed in the blood (same as the ionic portion > of properly made EIS), which then can deposit in the skin. > I probably read as much medical literature as you do and have never > seen a statement like that !! > > Well any factual source should do, but here are a few. Remember that > all salts of silver and all compounds that dissolve are ionic when > dissolved, whether you call them polar compounds, salts or ionic > silver is irrelevent: > > http://www.emedicine.com/derm/topic595.htm > Argyria results from prolonged contact with or ingestion of silver > salts. > > http://www.rotten.com/library/medicine/quackery/argyria/ > After ingestion, silver salts are deposited in the skin and oxidized > by sunlight, via the same process that develops photographs. > > http://dermatology.cdlib.org/111/case_reports/argyria/wadhera.html > The pigment that is deposited is usually silver sulfide, formed by the > conversion of silver salts in the presence of light and > sulfur-containing organic matrix (in the form of amino acids) > > http://www.medterms.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=9438 > Silver poisoning resulting in ashen gray discolored skin (and other > tissues of the body). Due to long-term use of silver salts. > > http://ptcl.chem.ox.ac.uk/MSDS/glossary/argyria.html > Argyria or Argyrism is an irreversible blueish-black discolouration > of the skin, mucous membranes or internal organs caused by ingestion > of, or contact with, various silver compounds. > > www.atsdr.cdc.gov/toxprofiles/tp146-c1.pdf > Argyria. occurs in people who eat or breathe in silver compounds over > a long > > www.silvergen.com/argyria1.htm > Argyria were cited to have been caused by silver compounds (not > colloidal silver, but silver mixed with other metals) > > www.happyherbalist.com/fda_report.htm > The reported cases of Argyria usually involved very high and frequent > doses over extended periods of time of silver salts/compounds > > jcp.bmjjournals.com/cgi/content/abstract/47/6/556 > Systemic argyria caused by chronic ingestion of silver compounds > > www.island.net/~zapper/Colloidal%20Silver.html > Silver particles cannot cause argyria, only ionic compounds can > > There are hundreds more, that is only the first two pages of > literature found by google. > > Marshall > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please do the list the honor of listing your sources. !!!!! "Ole > Bob" :-( :-( >
