Bill writes:
>   "You claim to have observed material with similar packaging and gross
> physical characteristics being sold for both purposes, and are urging
> our members on the basis of that casual impression to ignore an
> industry-wide safety standard."
> 
>   At no time have I made this claim.  I have not "observed material with
>   similar packaging and gross physical characteristics being sold for
>   both purposes".
> 
>   What I stated was that I had checked the packaging and found no
>   differences between that sold in the feed stores as plain DE and that
>   sold for 3 to 10 times the price sold packaged and sold as Pool Filter
>   medium.  That is what I plainly stated.

With every site I visit repeating this caution, not to mention your own 
observation that pool filter medium DE is being sold for 3 to 10 times 
the price, is there any reason under the sun for us to recommend its 
use at all? Why not observe the precaution until there is proof it is 
not necessary?

>   You then claim that it is an "industry-wide safety standard" AFTER
> you had previously written "Everywhere I have seen diatomaceous earth's
> use for animal or human consumption discussed, we are strongly warned
> to avoid the swimming pool filter type because it may be processed with
> heat " which NEVER mentions ANY industry standards just more rumors. 
> As with most of the simple remedies the word "may" is acted upon as
> GOSPEL TRUTH by those who do not know any better. 

Bill, you cannot guarantee that the pool center down the block from me 
isn't selling something called diatomaceous earth that has been 
processed with heat and *is* hazardous. You've made one observation 
where you are. That doesn't mean it's universally true.

Plus, you've not done any detailed tests to determine if the chemical 
composition and microstructure of the pool filter product you've 
examined are in fact the same as the products being sold for feed and 
food use, let alone the stuff available to me or other members. You 
said yourself that you didn't even buy any of it.

So, yes, in the face of the available evidence I'm going to allow the 
word "may" to incite me to caution, particularly where the members of 
this list are concerned.

>   It would certainly seem appropriate to ban me from this list as I will
>   continue to attempt to educate those who do not know how to check for
>   themselves.  Since I don't lie, most people do not realize that what I
>   say is literally the truth without prevarication.

Truth as you see it, certainly. That does not guarantee that what you 
believe is true, let alone that it is true everywhere.

This hardly seems a case where you should fall on your sword to defend 
a position. I certainly won't ban you for expressing an opposing point 
of view. Being civil and reasonable in doing so is all that I expect.

We most certainly are all now aware that you doubt the reported 
differences between pool filter and food/feed grade DE. Now we should 
leave it up to members to decide for themselves.

>   As the owner, you have chosen to lie about what I have said so as to
>   prejudice the group against my information.  This is your choice and
>   since it is your 'private property' to do with as you like, feel free.

Again, if you have any analyses which prove that even *some* of the 
stuff being sold for swimming pools is identical to food/feed grade, 
then we'll all be in your debt. Until that's the case we have only your 
opinion to go by, in which case I reserve the right to urge our members 
to be cautious.

>   I was learning some here, as with all the groups that I monitor, but
>   it isn't worth the hassle when this happens.

Nobody, Bill, not even the list owner, can demand that our slightest 
utterances be immediately and universally accepted by everyone as the 
gospel truth. 

Though I cannot and do not guarantee *any* of the information offered 
by people on this list is correct, useful, or safe, I will sometimes 
point out when I think extra caution is advised. This is one of those 
times.  

Be well,

Mike Devour
silver-list owner

[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
[[email protected]                        ]
[Speaking only for myself...               ]


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