Dan Nave wrote:

> Marshall,
>
> Have you ever done a calculation using Faraday's equation on your setup
> where you take the total current over time to calculate the total
> released silver in your system and compare it to the that necessary
> (theoretically)  to make the 10 ppm CS, where the difference between the
> two would be losses due to plating out of silver, etc in your system?
>
> If you could do this for reversing vs. non reversing current using the
> same setup, it would be very interesting.
>
> You are doing enough volume so that the differences should be easy to
> see.

Yes I have.  It is pretty close at 5 ppm, maybe 75-80% efficent at 10 ppm,
and drops to about 50% at 20 ppm.  Above 20 ppm, increases in the integrated
current (charge) have little effect on the ppm, that is it tops out pretty
quickly.  If I don't reverse then the efficiencies stay close to 100% for
higher ppms, but I don't have any solid data on that as I determined that
reversing was really necessary pretty early on in the testing.

Marshall

>
>
> Dan
>
> >>> Marshall Dudley <[email protected]> 4/28/2006 10:58:32 AM >>>
> You will find a flow through process much more reliable, faster, and
> more
> consistant.  Plus you can easily change the ppm easily by varying the
> flow rate
> when using constanct current.  Using non reversing current, you will
> end up
> with a significant amount of the silver plating out on the cathode,
> and
> eventually breaking loose and falling to the bottom. I would reccomend
> using a
> smaller container, about 1 gallon, flow through processing and a
> reversing
> constant current source. That is what I use to produce 55 gallons at a
> time, at
> the rate of about 1..5 gallon per hour per 10 ppm.
>
> Marshall
>
> HRBE wrote:
>
> > I have been doing some experimenting with making bulk CS.
> >
> > I have come up with the following setup.
> >
> > 1 x  5 gallon (imperial) fish tank
> > 1 x 36 square inches 99.99% silver plate
> > 1 x 36 square inches brass plate.
> > 1 x aquarium water pump
> > 1 x 30volt DC power supply, with adjustable current regulation.
> >
> > I spaced the plates @ 3 inches, I wrapped the brass plate in paper
> towel to
> > prevent the gunge from being circulated in the water. I limited the
> current
> > to 100ma.
> >
> > By wrapping the brass plate in paper towelling I don't need to wipe
> the
> > plate clean.
> >
> > 8 hours later, I have 5 gals of perfectly clear CS solution, which
> reads
> > 25uS on my Hanna HI98308 TDS meter.
> >
> > I used current control because I didn't have the time to "babysit"
> the
> > process
> >
> > I used Bob Berger's book as a guide for construction and I am
> building 45
> > volt dc current regulated power supply to try to shorten the brew
> process
> > time.
> >
> > Hope this is of interest to the group
> >
> > John McLean
> > Australia
> >
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