Listers,

I bought two PWT's from Trem a couple of years ago and check one off against 
the other.
The battries are expensive $3.50 each and wach PWT takes 4 small micro units.

I bought battries recently from Radio Shack (#23-105 -- 1.5v Watch & 
Calculator) -- I unpacked the first from its sealed sales card holder and 
measured less Milli-Amps than the old ones -- in other words they were old and 
had no "useby date" so beware!!

The battery manufacturers have a free ride -- they never have to really 
guarantee their products will work for any period of time etc. Yes! Some do 
have use-by dates.

Now there's a "Consumer Issue" for someone looking to become famous!!

Douglas H

---- Ode Coyote <[email protected]> wrote: 
> 
>    The calibration solution I got from Hanna was 50% off spec.  Plenty of 
> denial, no refunds.
>   I learned a lot by deduction and it took about a month to figure it all out.
>   The calibration instructions were far from enlightening and didn't 
> mention what temperature compensation was all about.
>   Hanna Tech was like "You're too stupid to ask questions, so stop it" [If 
> we tell you the real story, you'll see how misleading our ad copy 
> is...defend the product at all costs. ]
> 
> Fortunately I had 2 PWTs to make comparisons by and make deductions from.
> 
> Ode
> 
> At 10:53 AM 7/9/2006 -0600, you wrote:
> 
> >Hi Mike,
> >   I haven't worried about calibration since the first couple of months I 
> > owned my PWT. It has remained consistent with itself, and the measurment 
> > of uS of an immediately finished batch of CS in my Silverpuppy never 
> > varies more than fraction.
> >   A meter that isn't too far off, that gives consistent readings of both 
> > my DW and the finished CS is more important than that it read an exactly 
> > accurate uS. Hope that makes sense? I can tell immediately if anything is 
> > different in the DW or the CS, and I think that consistency is what is 
> > important.
> >
> >   I believe Ode some years back had a similar experience to what you 
> > described your friend had with two PWTs that gave very different readings.
> >sol
> >
> >Mike Monett wrote:
> >
> >>I have a Hanna PWT but the COM100 is next on my
> >>shopping list. I really like the temperature display, and I understand from
> >>David that the probe is a bit smaller than the Hanna which will make it
> >>easier to get readings from a bit of cs in a shot glass prior to sublingual
> >>absorption.
> >>
> >>I should also mention that my Hanna arrived several years ago in perfect
> >>calibration, and has held the original calibration extremely well. I have
> >>verified it numerous times with precision measurements using the Faraday
> >>calculation, and it has always agreed within 1uS up to about 15uS. The
> >>readings tend to depart around there due to AgOH formation. So I am
> >>confident my unit is functioning well.
> >>
> >>My faith in Hanna plummeted recently when I recommended a friend get one.
> >>She got two, with the calibration solution. When she brought them over to
> >>compare calibration with mine, we discovered that one unit was so far out
> >>of calibration that the adjustment screw could not bring it into
> >>calibration.
> >>
> >>The second unit was fine, but it was out of calibration. We discovered her
> >>calibration solution read high, about 96uS. So I recommended she send them
> >>back and get a refund.
> >>
> >>It is very difficult to recommend what to do to verify the manufacturer's
> >>products in a case like this. If you can do the Faraday calculation, it can
> >>help up to about 15uS. The salt test is useful, but it takes practise to
> >>judge the readings, and they won't be closer than about 5uS. So it can only
> >>catch gross calibration errors. Diluting a saturated salt solution takes
> >>some skill, and the resulting solution may not be very stable. It can also
> >>become contaminated from the container the solution is stored in.
> >>
> >
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