sol <[email protected]> wrote:

  > alchemySA wrote:

  >> Home-made colloidal silver contains no silver nitrate)

  > I believe  the above statement might not be strictly  accurate, as
  > homemade HVAC  colloidal   silver   probably  does  contain silver
  > nitrate, per my memory of posts from ole Bob. I think that  is why
  > he gave up on it after much work on it? Someone correct me  if I'm
  > wrong. Anybody have a better memory than me?

  >sol

  Hi sol,

  As far  as I recall, HVAC can make various nitrous  oxides,  some of
  which are  toxic. I'm not sure if any nitrates are  generated, which
  would be  needed  for  nitric acid, which would  be  needed  to make
  silver nitrate.

  We would need a real good chemist to sort this out, but I think it's
  pretty safe  to say nobody uses HVAC for homemade cs  any  more. The
  ion concentration  is too low - maybe less than 3 nines.  Everyone I
  know who was using abandoned it long ago.

  One company  may  still  use  a  special  HVAC  generator  where the
  electrode is  above the surface of the water and  forms  an electric
  arc. Frank analyzed their product and posted the results on  his web
  site. I  recall  it  makes  about 20ppm,  but  I  don't  think Frank
  measures any nitrogen byproducts. I have the patent around somewhere
  but can't locate it at the moment.

  One thing  I remember clearly is the patent stated the  operator had
  to continuously  adjust  the spacing of the rods,  and  that  it was
  fairly difficult  to  see the small arc. This means  there  would be
  large variations in product quality as the operator became fatigued.

  This seems  like  such a waste of effort when we can  make  equal or
  better ion  concentration  with  LVDC,   with  no  risk  of unwanted
  nitrogen products.

  I still  have  two  flat silver electrodes Ole  Bob  gave  me  to do
  comparison tests  with  12  ga  wire.  He  had  used  them  for HVAC
  production, and  you can see etching along the water line  where the
  high voltage  caused some arcing. I was thinking of  firing  them up
  this weekend  to see if there was any change in performance  with my
  new conductance  plotting  process,  but  it  looks  like  the ozone
  machine will burn up all the available time.

  Regards,

  Mike Monett

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