That's all right, I was just trying to help you. You don't have to apologize.
Dan -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 3:23 PM To: Dan Nave Subject: Re: CS>Re: better generator? Wow, I guess the list members were right about you after all. It's usually a sign of lack of pride of one self and one's accomplishments when one gets satisfaction from putting people down and a sign of lack of intelligence when rushing to conclusions without accurate facts. Sorry you have to deal with all that. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Nave" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 10:26 AM Subject: RE: CS>Re: better generator? This is why I initially said that you probably won't have any better experience with any other CS generator. I stand by my analysis of the situation. Let's see if I am not right... Dan -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 7:34 PM To: Dan Nave Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: CS>Re: better generator? Dan, It is You who are making assumptions based on almost no information from me. It is quite arrogant to assume to know what I know and what I don't know based on my basic posts. And even more arrogant and narrow minded to assume to tell me what the problem is without collecting some facts first. ALL the parameters you detail below, I AM understanding fully and clearly. Your response is that "stating the obvious" kind, which some list members warned me of. I contacted the list only AFTER I had done the process of elimination myself and AFTER consulting with my local and online friends who have more years and knowledge regarding CS under their belts. And I HAVE indeed consulted with Ken many, many times during the time I've had his Silver Puppy. And we've together gone through the list of the "obvious" and the not so obvious parameters several times, to no avail. I'm tired of wasting time on trying to fix something that clearly is NOT fixable and I just want to buy some other product that WORKS !! If stating the truth of my personal experience and that truth happens to be annoying to you and it makes you feel better to call this "slander" and offer snide remarks instead of an answer to my request - knock yourself out ! Perhaps considering being more open minded and less arrogant would help you be less annoyed. All I asked on this list of hundreds of CS makers and user was for recommendations on an effective product OTHER than the Silver Puppy. I didn't ask for help in making it work, especially not the help of the "stating the obvious" kind. Why is asking for recommendation on other than Ode's product such a DRAMA here ? Is it a REQUIREMENT to use LOVE his products (even if they don't work as they should) if I want to be a member of this list? Angel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Nave" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 6:51 AM Subject: RE: CS>Re: better generator? > Angel, > > I don't think you really understand the issues involved in making > colloidal silver and you are making assumptions based on this > misunderstanding. > > Terry makes some good points, although I don't agree 100% with > everything he said. If you are "dissolving" your silver electrodes, > then you are performing the electrolysis process that makes colloidal > silver. And, since you seem to have visible reduction in the size of > your electrodes it seems that you are putting a lot of silver into the > water. If this results in 3 to 4 ppm CS I would be very surprised. > > The SilverPuppy has an auto-shutoff feature which is calibrated to shut > off, not at a particular current, but at a certain voltage appearing > across the cell which has been selected based on the electrode size and > geometry and which correlates to the conductance of the cell. What this > means is that as the electrolysis (making CS) process continues the > water has more silver ions in it and it conducts electricity more > easily. Knowing the fixed conditions of the SilverPuppy electrode > configuration it can be set to shut down when there are a certain ppm of > ions in the cell (has a certain resistance, or inversely, conductance). > The shutdown is exact every time but because of the nature of CS making > and all the variables of water and contamination the ppm may not be > exact, but it should be close. You should make a similar product every > time if you use good distilled water and do not contaminate the > electrodes or jar with anything, by handling or by cleaning processes; > dirt, hand acids and oils, soaps, hydrogen peroxide, etc. > > If the SilverPuppy auto-shutoff is turning off too soon, you still have > the option of running it manually without the shutoff by switching the > toggle switch (away from the red dot, I think). This way you can run > forever, but really, you will never get above a certain percentage of CS > ions in the water and you will end up wasting your silver electrodes. > > Water quality is important! You should be using water distilled by a > steam process. And, not all distilled water is equal. Use the best > water you can find, it will limit the quality of your CS, although > almost all CS is usable and better than nothing, but we shoot for the > best, right? > > Do not add anything to the CS as a starter, like salt, baking soda, > honey, etc... If you have good CS, you can add some of that as a > starter to speed up the process, but be careful of adding questionable > CS to the cell as a starter. > > Your method of testing for the ppm of the CS may be incorrect. Your > instrument may be inappropriate. Your instrument may not be calibrated > correctly or just plain not working correctly. You may not understand > the issues surrounding testing, which are complex. You may be adjusting > your reading by the wrong factor. > > You are not working with Ken aka Ode Coyote who would go the extra mile > with you to solve your problem and help you understand how to make CS. > Instead you slander the SilverPuppy, which I don't think deserves this > treatment. It is a sweat little device, a good value, convenient, it is > what it is... > > Dan > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 4:48 AM > To: [email protected] > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: CS>Re: better generator? > > I'm not sure I understand. What do you mean with that statement? > > Angel > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dan Nave" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 8:33 PM > Subject: CS>Re: FW: CS>better generator? > > >> Save your money Angle, if you can't get the SilverPuppy to work, you > won't >> have any better time with any other unit... >> >> Dan -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. 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