I guess I missed the meaning of your post. Sounded like you had only
read the Silver Colloids info to me.
Sorry. Perhaps I still miss your meaning. The part of the SS site that
I wanted to point out is that there is at least one place that says that
ionic is better, though they may not state that particles are not
effective (I havent' read the stie for a long time) they obviously
believe ionic is better (well each site is selling their own product). I
haven't read the silver colloids site for a long time, either, but many
people who do read it come away with the belief that ionic silver is
useless........so does the site specifically state that? I can't remember.
However, I have now read Ode's take on both sites, and am not sure
where that leaves us on the ionic/vs particulate which is better
question except where he says:
Both ions and metallic nano particles will kill germs, no debate.
The debate is about which does a better job and used where.
Others [who don't have a sales agenda ] say they work together.
I do think they work together, and I make my own EIS, so I get both,
so the debate doesn't really interest me except as a mind excercise. In
any case if both kill "germs" maybe it doesn't make any serious
difference which one we use, or if we use a combined product such as
homemade EIS. I guess we all have to believe what we feel most
comfortable with---which is a way to say, I don't know if one position
is really able to be substantiated with real science, as a matter of
absolute science fact, rather than for the purpose of selling a product.
There would have to be double blind controlled studies of the use of
each for various conditions, and those kind of studies are notoriously
skewable, viz the number of lethal meds that get through the FDA
approval process. I doubt if any independent organization has the funds
or interest to do such studies, and studies funded by the mfr are the
least likely to be reliable, imho. The closest thing we have are the
many smaller but well done studies by Brooks Bradley and his group. He
always says exactly how they proceeded.
I do believe Frank Key is a very reputable person, and I do trust the
analyses of various brands of silver products he has posted at his site,
and have referred people there to check if their favorite brand of
commercial "CS" is what they think it is. However, I can't seem to
translate that respect into believing mesosilver is better than my
homemade EIS, perhaps because I don't want to believe I have to spend
that kind of $$ to have and use "CS" because I'd be priced right out of
"CS" use entirely if I had to buy either the Mesosilver or the SS, or
any other commercial "CS".
Some people do swear by either mesosilver or SS though, and
definitely feel they are better than homemade EIS. And with Mesosilver I
do have some personal concerns because as Ode also points out, no matter
how honest and reputable Frank Key is, or how much I trust the test
results on his site, I also (as Ode stated) cannot find anywhere that
says exactly what mesosilver is, or how it is made. One reason I prefer
to make my own EIS is that I know exactly how it is made and what goes
into it. (Well insofar as I can, I do believe there is something in the
tap water here that does not distill out entirely but cannot find out
what it is, the water dept info I do not entirely trust as if I believed
their test reports on the local water, there should be nothing).
sol
[email protected] wrote:
**** Sol -- didn't you read my post to you? I did go to the Natural
Immunogenics site. I went to both sites that you suggested. Frank Key's site
made the argument against ionic silver. The Sovereign Silver site did not
address the issue at all, that I could find. Was I missing something there? MA
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