There's clearly some sort of problem. I would like to know whether this is a general problem with magtapes under Ultrix (V3 or V4), just TMSCP tapes, or just with the TK50? So:

1. Will Ultrix install from the 3.0 tape if the simulated tape is a TSV11 (different tape)? a TK70 or TU81 (different TMSCP)? 2. Will Ultrix read the 3.0 if the simulated tape is a TSV11 (different tape)? a TK70 or TU81 (different TMSCP)?

I think the next step would be to extract the sources for the Ultrix drivers (V3 and V4) and take a look at them.

/Bob

On 12/6/2010 12:00 PM, [email protected] wrote:
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Date: Sun, 05 Dec 2010 19:50:07 +0100
From: J?rg Hoppe<[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Simh] SimH: Bugfix in VAX/PDP11 TK50 driver ... more
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Thanks for that TMSCP doc!

I spent the day testing some combinations of SimH/tape image/Ultrix version.
- SimH: original V3.8-1 vs. my "JH-path" version
- Ultrix installation: v3.0 vs. v4.0
- Test tapes:
          TAPE1 =   
www.bitsavers.org/bits/DEC/vax/ultrix/3.0/Ultrix-32_3.0_unsupp.tap
          TAPE2 =  "DEC C FOR RISC-ULTRIX TK50 (DEC 1991, AQ-PCXFA-BE 
ME214414).simh_tq.tk50" (own copy, call me)

Results:
1) A real uVAX under Ultrix 3.0 can read the real "Ultrix-32_3.0_unsupp.tap" 
(surprise!)
     The controller was QBUS TQK50 (M7546), the drive was TK50.
2) SimH can not read  "Ultrix-32_3.0_unsupp.tap" error free, neither on Ultrix 
v3 nor on Ultrix v4.
3) The TMSCP driver in Ultrix v4 is apparently different from v3:
     The error patterns under SimH are similar, but not the same. Data loss is 
greater under v4.
4) My little hack (I was so proud of it:-)) is very weak:
     - Sure, it makes "Ultrix-32_3.0_unsupp.tap" readable under Ultrix v3, as 
intended.
     - But SimH can not ">>>   boot MUA0" anymore.
     - It does not work on Ultrix v4 with "Ultrix-32_3.0_unsupp.tap"
     - It does not work with other tapes under Ultrix v3: Tapes with a small 
file before EOT fail.

I attached my test setups&   protocols, if somebody likes to work with it.

How would we continue from here?

regards,
Joerg





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