Mark

Well I'm just lazy and use the Ubuntu GUI tools (Ubuntu Software Center and 
synaptic) to download and build.  I realize their databases often aren't 
up-to-date.  But you bring up a good point.  Would this problem be solved 
easier with 3.9?

David.

--- On Tue, 9/4/12, Mark Pizzolato - Info Comm <[email protected]> wrote:

From: Mark Pizzolato - Info Comm <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [Simh] Connecting to Ethernet
To: "Sergey Oboguev" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" 
<[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Date: Tuesday, September 4, 2012, 11:41 AM

Hi David,  I’m wondering why you are not using simh v3.9.    If I had been 
participating in this discussion from the beginning I’d have recommended you 
start from the latest released code since there were numerous networking 
changes included there.  The simh v3.9-0 release code is available at: 
http://simh.trailing-edge.com/sources/simhv39-0.zip  -          Mark    From: 
[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Sergey Oboguev
Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 10:57 AM
To: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Simh] Connecting to Ethernet  (typos fixed)

Hi David,

To begin with, on host side you have network mask for A-class IP address 
defined as for C-class address.
Which *may* be ok, but subnet/broadcast masks definitions mismatch on host side 
and VAX side.
You need to have them equal.
This also distorts routing table on the host side.

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_classes

Note "may" in "may be ok". Though A/B/C class scheme is supposed to be retired, 
I'd rather stick to standard masking as initial step, just because not all 
software, especially legacy software, may implement non-standard masking 100% 
correctly. (As a matter of fact I have a set-up that uses A-class private 
subnet, but it uses standard-size A class masks, i.e. 255.0.0.0 rather than 
255.255.255.0.)

Fix this for a start and see what happens.

This said, it is suspicious that DELQA MAC address does not appear in list of 
MAC addresses seen by the bridge and that tap0 counters are all 0.

But begin by fixing masks, do some pinging, and if it still does not work 
repost new data.
Also see if SHOW DEVICE XQ /FULL indicates any errors.

- Sergey  From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tue, September 4, 2012 10:10:52 AM
Subject: Re: [Simh] Connecting to EthernetSergey

I printed the data you asked for and made no changes to VAX because they looked 
OK to me.  TCPIP SHOW ROUTE looped and produced no output.

I appreciate your examination of this problem.

Diagnostic data follows......


On Linux(Ubuntu) IP: 10.0.0.2 kermel 2.6.38-15-generic .....

david@Thinkpad:~/vax$ ifconfig
br0       Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:16:36:29:e6:7b  
          inet addr:10.0.0.2  Bcast:10.0.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
          inet6 addr: fe80::216:36ff:fe29:e67b/64 Scope:Link
          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:11 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:46 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 
          RX bytes:811 (811.0 B)  TX bytes:16459 (16.4 KB)

eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:16:36:29:e6:7b  
          inet6 addr: fe80::216:36ff:fe29:e67b/64 Scope:Link
          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:81237 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:73843 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 
          RX bytes:80090941 (80.0 MB)  TX bytes:11682488 (11.6 MB)
          Interrupt:16 

tap0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 86:bc:f0:f2:2c:de  
          UP BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:500 
          RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)


david@Thinkpad:~/vax$ brctl show
bridge name    bridge id        STP enabled    interfaces
br0        8000.00163629e67b    no        eth0
                            tap0
david@Thinkpad:~/vax$ brctl show br0
bridge name    bridge id        STP enabled    interfaces
br0        8000.00163629e67b    no        eth0
                            tap0
david@Thinkpad:~/vax$ brctl showmacs br0
port no    mac addr        is local?    ageing timer
  1    00:0d:4b:4b:3d:ab    no           6.52
  1    00:16:36:29:e6:7b    yes           0.00
  1    00:21:6a:75:6d:04    no          63.15
  2    86:bc:f0:f2:2c:de    yes           0.00
  1    e0:46:9a:58:62:14    no          31.61
david@Thinkpad:~/vax$ route -n
Kernel IP routing table
Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use Iface
10.0.0.0        0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 br0
0.0.0.0         10.0.0.1        0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0 br0

In SIMH ......

sim> sho ver
VAX simulator V3.8-1 [64b data, 64b addresses, Ethernet support]
sim> show xq
XQ, address=20001920-2000192F, no vector, MAC=08:00:2B:AA:BB:CC, type=DELQA, 
poll=100, attached to tap0

In OpenVMS V7.3  on node MYVAX   4-SEP-2012 

$ tcpip show interface /full
 Interface: LO0
   IP_Addr: 127.0.0.1         NETWRK: 255.0.0.0         BRDCST:
                                                           MTU:  4096
     Flags: UP LOOP NOARP MCAST SMPX
                                  RECEIVE        SEND
   Packets                              0           0
     Errors                             0           0
   Collisions:                          0
 
 Interface: QE0
   IP_Addr: 10.0.0.99         NETWRK: 255.0.0.0         BRDCST: 10.255.255.255
 Cluster  
    C_Addr:                 C_NETWRK:                 C_BRDCST:
                       Ethernet_Addr: 08-00-2B-AA-BB-CC    MTU:  1500
     Flags: UP BRDCST RUN MCAST SMPX
                                  RECEIVE        SEND
   Packets                              0           5
     Errors                             0           0
   Collisions:                          0
 
$ tcpip show route /full
MYVAX::SYSTEM 09:53:18 TCPIP$UCP CPU=00:00:03.15 PF=4490 IO=341 MEM=931
MYVAX::SYSTEM 09:53:22 TCPIP$UCP CPU=00:00:03.15 PF=4502 IO=347 MEM=943
MYVAX::SYSTEM 09:53:29 TCPIP$UCP CPU=00:00:03.16 PF=4502 IO=353 MEM=943
 Interrupt 

SHOW ROUTE just hangs .. well, I see it's doing I/Os, but no results.

$ mc tcpip$ping 10.0.0.2

Hangs as well. 


--- On Mon, 9/3/12, Sergey Oboguev <[email protected]> wrote:
From: Sergey Oboguev <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Simh] Connecting to Ethernet
To: [email protected], [email protected]
Date: Monday, September 3, 2012, 5:34 PMDid you remember to configure the 
interface in TCP/IP services for OpenVMS?

Assuming for the sake of example that your host uses IP address 192.168.21.3 
for 

(initially) eth0 and (subsequently after bridging) br0, and assuming you want 
to 
assign 

IP address 192.168.21.200 to VAX instance, you need to configure QE0 inside VMS 
as follows:

    $ TCPIP SET INTERFACE QE0 /HOST=192.168.21.200 
    $ TCPIP SET CONFIGURATION INTERFACE QE0 /HOST=192.168.21.200

Depending on exact value of network addresses being used and network topology 
it 

may be necessary to additionally specify options /NETWORK_MASK=n.n.n.n and 
/BROADCAST_MASK=m.m.m.m, although usually VMS TCP/IP picks correct defaults for 
the masks.

If it still does not work, please post the output of

    $ TCPIP SHOW INTERFACE /FULL
    $ TCPIP SHOW ROUTE /FULL

and (in Linux)

    ifconfig br0
    ifcongig eth0
    ifconfig tap0
    brctl show
    brctl show br0
    brctl showmacs br0
    route -n

and (at SIMH command console prompt)

    show xq

Thanks,
Sergey

________________________________
From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Mon, September 3, 2012 4:10:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Simh] Connecting to Ethernet


Sergey

That was a big help, but I'm not there yet.  I did the following

$ sudo ./ linux-tap.sh create br0 eth0 tap0 david
$ sudo vax    ; to start SIMH
simh>   ; the usual stuff
simh> set xq mac=bla bla
simh> att tap0  ;  hooray, this is the first time this succeeded.
simh> boot cpu

When logged into VMS, I could PING and TELNET to LOCALHOST (and 127.0.0.1).   
But alas, not to my physical host.  And my physical host can't see the VAX 
either.

But I did so many things to get to this point that something else might be 
screwed up, so I need to reboot linux and start this drill again.

Thanks for a great start!

Any other suggestions?

--- On Mon, 9/3/12, Sergey Oboguev <[email protected]> wrote:


>From: Sergey Oboguev <[email protected]>
>Subject: Re: [Simh] Basic questions
>To: [email protected], [email protected]
>Date: Monday, September 3, 2012, 12:20 PM
>
>
>> In particular I get the following error:
>> david@Thinkpad:~$ sudo brctl addbr br0
>> david@Thinkpad:~$ sudo ifconfig tap0 up
>> tap0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
>
>Perhaps because 
>
>    /usr/sbin/tunctl -t $TAPDEV -u $USERID
>
>is missing.
>
>You may find the following script helpful:  
>http://oboguev.net/misc/linux-tap.sh.txt
>
>Usage is at the bottom or invokable as
>
>    ./linux-tap.sh help
>   
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