how can I check in TOPS-20 to see if the device is visible
and then install DECnet?
You need to install DECnet first.  It's pretty easy.
See http://ia801607.us.archive.org/21/items/bitsavers_decpdp10TOTMTOPS20DECnet20ProgrammersGuideJan80_10120529/AA-5091B-TM_TOPS-20_DECnet-20_Programmers_Guide_Jan80.pdf

ps:<system>4-1-config.cmd
add 1 line:
NODE name number (e.g. NODE HAPPY 7.3)

ps:<system>sysjob.run
Look for last job. If FAL or NETCON is missing, add as follows at end of file:
JOB <n+1> \LOG OPERATOR XX OPERATOR
ENA
RUN SYS:FAL
\
JOB <n+2> \LOG OPERATOR XX OPERATOR
ENA
RUN SYS:NETCON
\

(n.b. XX is literal - NOT the operator password.)

Reboot

$opr
opr> enter ncp
ncp> show known lines
ncp> show known circuits
ncp> exit
opr> exit

(Add char, stat, or count to the show commands as desired. ? will give in-line help.)

inf decnet for quick node status.

For TOPS-10:
MONGEN will prompt for the DECnet node name/number, etc. Build & boot the monitor.

.resources should (I think) show KDP, and you should see KDPLDR run at startup

.r opr
(same)

or
.network /anf
.network /decnet

.node <name> for reachability of a node

Enjoy.

This communication may not represent my employer's views,
if any, on the matters discussed.

On 18-Apr-13 14:58, Rob Jarratt wrote:

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:simh-bounces@trailing-
edge.com] On Behalf Of Johnny Eriksson
Sent: 14 April 2013 21:10
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Simh] DECnet for TOPS-10

<[email protected]> wrote:

That has got to be worth integrating into the latest SIMH. Does that
mean we can get DECnet running on TOPS-10 on SIMH? I would love to
know how you actually install and set it up on TOPS-10.

I will try to find some time to get the KMC/DUP into the latest SIMH.
You are welcome.  A number of random points:

I have compiled something very basic into PDP10, the network code is
actually stubbed out at the moment as I have to replace it with current SIMH
code (going to look at TMXR).

In the meantime, how can I check in TOPS-20 to see if the device is visible
and then install DECnet? I remember finding some docs but I can't find them
again now.



* My code sends the DDCMP frames out as UDP datagrams, and receives
   frames the same way.  You simply specify src/dst ports, and possibly
   an address (defaulting to 127.0.0.1).  This means that there is no
   need to do elaborate (blocking) setups of TCP connections etc. from
   inside the simulator.  This also makes it trivial to connect two
   simulators running on the same machine, or on the same (trusted) LAN.

* A side effect of this is that you can have a helper process on your
   machine that does the TCP magic and also encrypts the traffic out
   on the evil internet.  My normal (at the moment defunct) setup is
   done that way.  One such program is on the site, named "stuk2.c"
   (don't ask...)

* You can in theory write a helper process to talk to some real
   piece of hardware.  I have not tested, but it should work to send
   the frames to a serial port and connect it to a real machine
   running async DECnet on a terminal line...

* The current crypto in stuk2 is weak.  Not the algorithm itself,
   RC4 (tm) is used, but some random padding etc. should be applied
   on the data stream, since it normally consists of 6-byte idle
   frames, with mostly known bits...

Not sure what you are referring to here.

Thanks

Rob

* The actual KS10 supports one KDP with 2 DUPs.  There are several
   reasons for this, like unibus load, unibus space and speed.  This
   places some limits in case one wants to build a network of emulators
   and want to run both ANF and DECnet.  The KMC itself supports 16
   if I remember correctly.  We should have at least 6-8, and allow
   for a fairly simple mod to Tops10 to handle them.

* I am willing to help out, but I have very limited time until after
   the CuG conference, mid May.

Regards

Rob
--Johnny
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