On 22 January 2014 11:30, Mark Pizzolato - Info Comm <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Christian,
>
> Thanks for this report.
>
> This does sound odd.
>
> I can't speak to what to expect when you configure a simulator with 
> insufficient resources for the operating system to run, but your observation 
> that Ctrl-E doesn't provide a way back to the "sim>" prompt suggests 
> something strange in the simulator itself.
>
> Please create an issue at https://github.com/simh/simh/issues to report and 
> track this problem.
>
> I doubt it has anything to do with the particular windows system you are 
> running on, so you don't have to run back home to test.  The configuration 
> file you're running with would be useful.
>
> Thanks.
>
> - Mark
Well, actually I didn't expect the RSX-11/S baseline system to require
more than 256KB of RAM, but I am apparently wrong. (I think it's
RSX-11/S that is used for the baseline, I'm not sure. Wholly new to
the world of RSX-11.) Trying it with 384KB of RAM worked fine (it
didn't crash kill the sim). And the bug is reproducible on my home W7
system as well.

As a further test; I attempted to bootstrap the baseline system on a
256KB system, with the system console directed to a telnet port as
opposed to running straight from the SIMH executable. While the RSX-11
baseline still dies, the simulator itself doesn't. (I.e. I can send a
Ctrl+E and the simulator does halt to the sim> prompt.)


I'll open a proper issue/trouble ticket on the GitHub shortly.



On 22 January 2014 11:34, Johnny Billquist <[email protected]> wrote:
> Sounds like a problem in simh, yes.
>
> But just to clarify one thing with RSX here. The problem is not about not
> having enough memory to allocate a checkpoint space. What the error means is
> that RSX do not have a checkpoint space.
> Checkpoint space is the RSX term for disk space used to swap out running
> tasks to, in order to free memory.
>
> But yes, the basic problem is that you have too little memory. The startup
> script will setup a checkpoint space for you, but you don't even make it
> that far... The basic tasks activated at startup is already requiring more
> memory than you have.
>
>         Johnny
I'm brand new to the RSX-11 game so I didn't know that. As I mentioned
in my reply to Mark, I think the baseline install system is RSX-11/S,
which I thought had very small memory requirements. Plus it seems a
bit of a troll on the part of the RSX-11 developers, it won't run on
an 18-bit system, but will run a 22-bit system with just 128KB more
RAM; compare to RSTS/E 10.1 which works fine on a 256KB system.


In any case, this appears to be a problem with SIMH itself, not so
much with RSX-11 (even if it is a misconfiguration issue that causes
RSX-11 to crash and show the bug).


Regards,
Christian

-- 
Christian M. Gauger-Cosgrove
STCKON08DS0
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