On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 10:26:46 -0500 Christian Gauger-Cosgrove <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 21 December 2015 at 02:14, <[email protected]> wrote: > > The printing terminals were useful for OS/360 console > > loggers but few Hercules users run OS/360. Bottom line and for > > everything else .. > > > The printing terminals (1052-7 or 3215; your choice) are required if > you do a sysgen from the starter system. That's right. I just didn't remember if that was also the case with MVS or just with OS/360. > So yes, printing consoles certainly aren't necessary to operation of a > fully set up MVS 3.8J system, however for the MVS 3.7 "starter" system > needed to actually sysgen 3.8 they are required Absolutely correct and point taken. I'm suspicious about the "3.7" designation but putting that aside, it's correct that you need a console printer to do a sysgen of MVS 3.8J. Of course virtually nobody does that over Hercules because various Turnkey and installed system images are available, but if they do a sysgen (and I did) you will need one. > > Are you saying Putty's telnet doesn't support the printing terminals > > Hercules supports? Because if that is not what you are saying then we > > seem to be going around in circles. Telnet clearly won't work for a > > normal IBM terminal. > > > There is a bug in telnet negotiations in Hercules, that causes PuTTY > to be unable to connect to Hercules. and > PuTTY's telnet client cannot connect to Hercules, as there is a bug in > telnet negotiations in the Hercules console.c code that makes it > non-RFC compliant. If you would have said that in the first place I would have understood you a lot better! I don't know if anybody else is aware of this. Perhaps you should report it to one of the Hercules maintainers? > Anyway this has gone way past the point of being related to SIMH; and > in reality is a non-issue. A quick "TL;DR" as the internet neologism > would be: Hercules has a telnet negotiation bug that means PuTTY can't > connect to it. Yeah but this whole thing started when you said On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 15:44:26 -0500 Christian Gauger-Cosgrove <[email protected]> wrote: > The one and only problem I've found with PuTTY is that for some reason > it's telnet is not compatible with the Hercules (IBM System/370 and up > mainframe emulator; not SIMH project) emulator. which seemed to suggest Putty was at fault and also that you didn't know what was wrong whereas now you clarified > Hercules has a telnet negotiation bug that means PuTTY can't connect to > it. Ah, that's better :-) -- Please DO NOT COPY ME on mailing list replies. I read the mailing list. RSA 4096 fingerprint 7940 3F02 16D3 AFEE F2F8 ACAA 557C 4B36 98E4 4D49 _______________________________________________ Simh mailing list [email protected] http://mailman.trailing-edge.com/mailman/listinfo/simh
