> On Jan 2, 2016, at 6:20 AM, Johnny Billquist <b...@softjar.se> wrote:
> 
> On 2016-01-01 23:01, Paul Koning wrote:
>> 
>>> On Jan 1, 2016, at 4:56 PM, Will Senn <will.s...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 12/31/15 2:10 PM, Will Senn wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Paul Koning set me straight on figuring out that DZ, as configured, was 
>>>> actually working. Duh, press RETURN twice to get BAUD detected properly, 
>>>> then all is right in the world. The other devices might work too, but 
>>>> since DZ worked, I'm happy.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for responding.
>>>> 
>>>> Will
>>>> 
>>> Oh. And one other thing. Not only do you have to press enter twice, for 
>>> BAUD rate, but the main console session has be be started and 
>>> timesharing/system startup has to be finished before you can attach another 
>>> telnet session. I think this may have been the problem I was having 
>>> originally rather than the BAUD rate. I had started the telnet session and 
>>> booted the disk, but I hadn't started timesharing, when I fired up telnet 
>>> on port 10001.
>> 
>> That makes sense.  Until you've started timesharing, you're in a program 
>> called INIT, which is essentially the RSTS OS loader.  It's a standalone 
>> program that talks only to the console, as well as the disks on which RSTS 
>> lives (and, in limited ways, the  tape drives for accessing RSTS kit tapes). 
>>   None of the other terminal lines are enabled at that time.
>> 
>> If you say "Start" for "start timesharing" (instead of just entering Return 
>> or "Yes") it does a somewhat more verbose startup which tells you about each 
>> controller that's disabled because it's not visible.
> 
> If I read Will right, it does not make sense. Yes, you will not get any 
> response until timesharing have started, but you should be able to telnet 
> into the port as soon as simh has started. And once timesharing is running, 
> you should be able to get a response. I don't think there is any reason why 
> you would have to have even doing the telnet until timesharing have started. 
> I know that you don't have to wait under RSX.

Yes, it would seem reasonable that the telnet connection would go through.  And 
indeed it does.  I just ran that test.

Specifically, what happens when a RSTS system is in INIT: the telnet server in 
SimH accepts the connection, as usual.  But you do NOT get the "Connected to 
the PDP-11 simulator DZ device, line 0" message.

        paul

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