On 3 January 2016 at 16:56, Paul Koning <[email protected]> wrote:
> I wonder if it's documented in some obscure spot, or if we neglected to do 
> so.  The answer is: the word "CCL" passes the string that follows to RSTS as 
> a command to execute.  So any CCL command (anything added with 
> define/command/system) will work.  Normally "switch" is such a command, so 
> you would do "ccl switch" (or the equivalent "ccl switch dcl").
>
Thank you very, very much for that. I don't think I ever saw mention
of that, at least within RSTS/E itself.


> Actually, it's because I ported it to RSTS as an internal tool, and managed 
> to get it shipped so long as DEC wouldn't have to support it.  There are two 
> FORTH programs that should be included: one is ODT which is like the Basic 
> ODT tool except that it handles large files, and the other is SDA which is an 
> interactive crashdump analyzer inspired by (but not derived from) the VMS 
> tool by that name.  I don't remember if the sources are distributed; if not, 
> SDA does have a HELP command that should give you some ideas.
>
> This Forth implementation is a port of Fig-FORTH by John S. James, with some 
> RSTS-specific magic added.  I just realized the file header says that it is 
> in the public domain, so I suppose I should post the source...
>
Well, I stand corrected; by one of the people responsible for the
existence of the RTS in question! :P

That's neat learning the history of it. I didn't know why DEC had
included a FORTH RTS nor what the SDA.4TH program actually was (I had
guessed that ODT.4TH was related in some what to ODT). It appears that
the SDA source is in UNSUPP$:, namely SDA.FTH. I don't see the ODT
source however.


On 3 January 2016 at 18:43, Paul Koning <[email protected]> wrote:
> So the question would be: where should it go?  Bitsavers?  trailing-edge.com?
>
Why not both? Would be useful to have it in multiple places.


Cheers,
Christian
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Christian M. Gauger-Cosgrove
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