On 2016-01-06 15:35, Will Senn wrote:


On 1/5/16 11:38 PM, Will Senn wrote:


On 1/5/16 7:14 PM, Paul Koning wrote:
On Jan 5, 2016, at 5:07 PM, Will Senn <[email protected]> wrote:

All,

The simulated paper tape device is very handy to copy text around
between a host and simulated environment. My question for the group
is, does RSTS/E 10.1-L support the paper tape device? The
documentation is sketchy about it but does make a rare reference to
PP: and PR: (help for SYSTAT for example), but it wasn't a question
during sysgen and I can't figure out how to copy files to it. In
RT-11, it's as simple as copy whatever PC: or copy PC: whatever...
Yes, RSTS does support those.  I don't know why Sysgen doesn't ask.
It doesn't ask about DECtape, either.  Perhaps they are no longer
officially supported, but the software should be there and it should
work.

After running sysgen but before running the resulting sysgen.com
script, edit config.mac.  Look for the line that mentions PR11 and
change the 0 to 1, then the next line (PP11) also 0 change to 1.
While you're there, if you want DECtape, change TC11 (just above
PR11) to be the number of DECtape drives.  Typically that's an even
number because a TU56 has two DECtape drives in it.

    paul

I followed the steps Paul provided with Christian's clarification and
am now able to copy files to the paper tape punch device PP:...

$ copy instal.log pp:
[File INSTAL.LOG copied to PP:[1,2]]

The ptp.txt file on the host now contains the contents of instal.log
from rsts/e. Woohoo, half way there...

but copying files from PR: doesn't seem to work:
$ copy pr: hello.mac
?Device hung or write locked - file PR:??????.???

I tried PR0: as well, same result. Is the copy command different from
what I typed? or do I need to enable read on the PR device somehow?

Thanks,

Will


Update. If the copy is the first thing after attaching ptr in simh, it
works:
$ copy PR: HELLO.MAC
[File PR:??????.??? copied to [1,2]HELLO .MAC]
$ macro/rt11 hello/list
$ link/rt11 hello/map
$ run hello
HELLO, WORLD

Any subsequent use of PR fails (which makes sense, really, after all,
the PTR should be positioned after the read):
?Device hung or write locked - file PR:??????.???

until ptr is attached again. I'm not sure how I missed this the first go
around, I didn't think it ever succeeded, but I've verified that it
seems to always works after an attach. Is there a
reset/rewind/reposition device function that will work with PR in RSTS?
I can work around it with reattachment in SIMH if all else fails.

There is no way to software wise reset the paper tape from the OS. The paper tape is a physical thing. I real life, you would need to actually take the paper tape and "mount" it in the reader, and set the reader online. And after that, the tape can be read by software.

As for transferring files to and from your RSTS/E system, you do know of KERMIT, right? Telnet into the RSTS/E system, start a kermit server there, switch back to your local kermit, and then send/receive files to your hearts content.

Other options could be using a disk with the files on it, setting up tapes, but also, if simh supports it, possibly using the virtual DOS device, that other emulators have, as well as using DECnet.

If you have some RSX, RT-11 or VMS system nearby, you can also use TCP/IP on those systems, and then transfer using one of the above suggested methods to just get the files over to RSTS/E.

        Johnny

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