Copyright laws werechanged to keep Mickey Mojuse protected many years back, 
anyrfing after 1820 is cmplicated. Many of the rules were changed. Oroject 
gutenberg has a lot mire information about it.

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From Timothe Litt <l...@ieee.org> 
Date: 01/08/2016  1:19 PM  (GMT-07:00) 
To simh@trailing-edge.com 
Subject Re: [Simh] RSTS/E 10.1-L and Paper tape 
 
On 08-Jan-16 14:44, Larry Baker wrote:
Paul,

That is correct.  In X3.27-1978 (version 3) and earlier, date fields are 6 
characters " YYDDD".  The first character must be a space.  In X3.27-1987 
(version 4), the first character in date fields is either a space or a 0.  " 
YYDDD" are 19YY dates, "0YYDDD" are 20YY dates.


I have paper copies of -1978 and -1987.  I don't think it's legal to put them 
up on bitsavers, though.  I think you still have to purchase copies from 
whoever publishes them now.

Larry Baker
US Geological Survey
650-329-5608
ba...@usgs.gov
My paper copy of 78 has a copyright.  It also has a restriction on     
reproduction in any form, including electronic.

My paper copy of 87 is a printout of a text file that does not.  Might have 
come from a DEC committee member, though the title page includes "Approved 
March 16, 1987".

CBEMA was the secretariat that produced these standards.

I don't know what ANSI's (or INCITS, the successor to CBEMA's)     policy is on 
re-distribution of obsolete versions of its standards.      

Those interested can ask ANSI for permission to put them on bitsavers for 
historical research purposes.  One doesn't know what they'll say without 
asking... "yes" is possible.

ANSI customer service is: i...@ansi.org
INCITS: inc...@itic.org

Historical research/preservation as a reason often unlocks doors.

The 1978 version might be off copyright depending on when it was registered.  
It was approved in 1977, so it would have expired after 28 years if not 
renewed.  Would anyone have bothered?  But the rules are complicated.  See 
http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ15a.pdf.

The 1987 version would be under the new copyright rules, modulo the fact that 
my copy doesn't have a copyright statement.

Have fun.


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