I am forwarding a conversation I had yesterday about a DECnet implementation for Unix, Linux, and Windows, which originated with James Corrigan's announcement on the linux-decnet mailing list (close to the bottom of this post). It seems rather timely given the recent conversations here about transferring files, and Johnny Billquist's comments about bugs in linux-decnet. I will invite Mr. Corrigan to join the SIMH mailing list.
Larry Baker US Geological Survey 650-329-5608 [email protected] Begin forwarded message: > From: James Corrigan <[email protected]> > Date: 18 February 2016 10:21:10 PM PST > To: Larry Baker <[email protected]> > Cc: decnet list <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Linux-decnet-user] In the mid 80s through 2000s > > Our DAP capabilities are fairly extensive. We optimized the acknowledgement > process such that the file transfer speeds were faster the DEC to DEC. DEC > file Transfer was faster between our dap implementation and their > implementation > > I will update this post with the command options/ parameters > > I will also confirm that we make a determination based on Linux file type and > transfer using the appropriate DEC file type and the reverse > > I will post the mapping tomorrow > > You may also override the file type mapping from command line > > We have interfaces for oracle as well as we worked with them for a year to > implement their DECnet interfaces for sun HP IBM and many more > > > > James Corrigan > Manage Operations > > ⓂⓄ ⒹⒺⓁⒾⓋⒺⓇⓈ > > [email protected] > C: +1.919.349.8767 > V: +1.919.521.8914 > > > On Feb 19, 2016, at 00:47, Larry Baker <[email protected]> wrote: > >> We use the linux-denet FAL (File Access Listener) server, which implements >> DEC's DAP (Data Access Protocol). The Linux FAL has a configuration file >> that uses the file suffix to look up RMS file attributes for common use >> cases. Otherwise, I think it defaults to STREAM_LF format. >> >> I think your DECnet routing code is the golden egg. If DECnet routing works >> without a Linux decnet kernel module, I would think the userland stuff would >> be a much easier chore to get working. >> >> Larry Baker >> US Geological Survey >> 650-329-5608 >> [email protected] >> >> >> >> On 18 Feb 2016, at 9:39 PM, James Corrigan wrote: >> >>> The implementation of DECnet LAT and MOP are complete including >>> >>> a programming API, >>> >>> level 1 and 2 routing ( we wrote the DECnet routing code for IBM's and >>> Cabletron's DECnet router products >>> >>> NCP with VMS like help ( VMS like help exists for all commands: sethost >>> copy and such) >>> >>> Interlink used our code for their IBM SNA DECnet gateway and it has been >>> fully stress tested >>> >>> What commands are you interested in using? >>> >>> James Corrigan >>> Manage Operations >>> >>> ⓂⓄ ⒹⒺⓁⒾⓋⒺⓇⓈ >>> >>> [email protected] >>> C: +1.919.349.8767 >>> V: +1.919.521.8914 >>> >>> >>> On Feb 18, 2016, at 22:38, Larry Baker <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> James, >>>> >>>> Do you have any idea whether the linux-decnet user land utilities do/might >>>> work? Being relieved of tracking Linux kernel network driver changes in >>>> the Linux decnet module would be a big improvement. >>>> >>>> Larry Baker >>>> US Geological Survey >>>> 650-329-5608 >>>> [email protected] >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 18 Feb 2016, at 7:27 PM, James Corrigan wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Dave >>>>> >>>>> Daniel Watts, Bao Claylinde, Barry Stone and I worked on this network >>>>> stack for many years. One other fellow, a friend of Dan's, did the MOP >>>>> implementation >>>>> >>>>> Dan and I worked in it starting in 1985. Bao joined a few years later and >>>>> work the Ethernet driver with IBM engineers for AiX. I believe he also >>>>> helped HP Ethernet driver as well. These drivers are well implemented >>>>> everywhere now allowing the change of address to the AA-Xx-Xx DECnet >>>>> address space. Bao also greatly improved the performance of our LAT >>>>> >>>>> The code compiles on all modern Linux and UNIX systems as it is a user >>>>> space implementation. I do need to remove the activation key code so no >>>>> activation key will be required >>>>> >>>>> John Montgomery who is working for Microsoft now wrote the extensive >>>>> documentation. It is very comprehensive and took a good while to complete >>>>> with his then fiancé! >>>>> >>>>> If folks would let me know the versions of Linux and UNIX that they need >>>>> tested I will set up a development environment for those servers and >>>>> confirm that it is operational. I believe we have functionality test >>>>> suites as well that I will make available. >>>>> >>>>> I appreciate your interest >>>>> >>>>> Jim >>>>> >>>>> James Corrigan >>>>> Manage Operations >>>>> >>>>> ⓂⓄ ⒹⒺⓁⒾⓋⒺⓇⓈ >>>>> >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> C: +1.919.349.8767 >>>>> V: +1.919.521.8914 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Feb 18, 2016, at 21:52, Dave McGuire <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Wow, this is amazing...Some friends and I were just lamenting the >>>>>> current state of the Linux DECnet support (unmaintained and slowly >>>>>> breaking more with each kernel release) a couple of days ago. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm just a user, I have no authoritative role in any of this, but I >>>>>> will do anything I can to help facilitate this. How would you like to >>>>>> proceed? >>>>>> >>>>>> And, of course, thank you for doing this! >>>>>> >>>>>> -Dave >>>>>> >>>>>> On 02/18/2016 09:49 PM, James Corrigan wrote: >>>>>>> Yes. Making it readily and freely available >>>>>>> >>>>>>> James Corrigan >>>>>>> Manage Operations >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ⓂⓄ ⒹⒺⓁⒾⓋⒺⓇⓈ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>>> C: +1.919.349.8767 <tel:+1.919.349.8767> >>>>>>> V: +1.919.521.8914 <tel:+1.919.521.8914> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Feb 18, 2016, at 21:47, Dave McGuire <[email protected] >>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 02/18/2016 07:31 PM, James Corrigan wrote: >>>>>>>>> I am looking for some one to discuss making available an user space >>>>>>>>> decnet Lat and mop that is fully production ready for all variants of >>>>>>>>> UNIX and Linux and Windows >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> My company sold it as DEKnet and openDNA >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If there is interest please reach out >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I, for one, am VERY strongly interested. Are you proposing making >>>>>>>> this free software? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -Dave >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Dave McGuire, AK4HZ >>>>>>>> New Kensington, PA >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Dave McGuire, AK4HZ >>>>>> New Kensington, PA >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>> Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into Application Performance >>>>> APM + Mobile APM + RUM: Monitor 3 App instances at just $35/Month >>>>> Monitor end-to-end web transactions and take corrective actions now >>>>> Troubleshoot faster and improve end-user experience. Signup Now! >>>>> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=272487151&iu=/4140_______________________________________________ >>>>> Project Home Page: http://linux-decnet.wiki.sourceforge.net/ >>>>> >>>>> Linux-decnet-user mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linux-decnet-user >>>>> >>>> >>
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