Hello! And I remember trying out an extension to iRMX-86 which would work with MS Windows 3.11. (Or Windows 3.0) It was an interesting idea, but I never got it to go anywhere.
It would be interesting to track down the whole business..... ----- Gregg C Levine [email protected] "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again." On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 1:27 PM, Quentin North <[email protected]> wrote: > I remember using iRMX-86 which was a realtime os environment and from memory > had a ucsd like menu based user interface along with PLM-86 as the main > programming language. We used it for building flight simulator visual > systems. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 22 Feb 2016, at 15:31, Armistead, Jason BIS <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Sorry for this off-topic posting, but with all the recent talk about Intel’s > history of x86 development, I was wondering whether there are any “Intel > connected” people around here who might know what happened to the source > code for Intel’s PL/M-86, ASM86 and iAPX-86 Utilities (LINK86, LOC86, LIB86, > CREF86 and OH86). The manuals for many of these are on Bitsavers. > > I have used both the DOS-hosted and VAX/VMS hosted versions of these tools, > but when Y2K was approaching I reached out to Intel to see if we could > obtain the source code under some sort of license (given that these products > weren’t being sold anymore) that would allow us to modify it for Y2K just to > tidy up the generated compiler listing files, linker map files, etc., which > were the only real place dates and times were used. The reply I got from > Intel was basically stating that this was “lost” and no-one knew what became > of it. And now, with the switch to x64, Windows 7.x and later Windows > incarnations no longer support running the old 16-bit DOS executables in a > 64-bit environment, other than resorting to virtually hosted DOS using > DOSbox, VirtualBox or similar. > > PL/M-86 was never (to my knowledge) used to build a widely-used operating > system in the way its predecessor PL/M-80 was used to build the early CP/M > 1.x and 2.0, so it never quite got as much attention as “piece of computing > history”. > > We also used PL/M-80 under ISIS-II on Intel’s iPDS and MDS-80 development > workstations, PL/M-80 under iSIM85 ISIS-II emulator on DOS/Windows > 16/32-bit, as well as PL/M-51 under DOS/Windows 16/32-bit. There were also > PL/M-286 and PL/M-386 varieties, and possibly PL/M-48 (?) though I never > personally used them. > > Interestingly, I just discovered that there was a PL/M-VAX version (see > http://www.cpm.z80.de/source.html ) that was written in Fortran and emits > VAX instructions. From looking at that source it looks like that was > something done by National Energy Software Center at the Argonne National > Laboratory using Intel code from 1981 as a starting point. > > I probably should have thought of asking on the SIMH e-mail list years ago ! > Perhaps someone on this list has connections at Intel (or used to work > there) and maybe this source code really does exist in either the corporate > archives or in some private or museum collection. > > Cheers > Jason A. > > > _______________________________________________ > Simh mailing list > [email protected] > http://mailman.trailing-edge.com/mailman/listinfo/simh > > > _______________________________________________ > Simh mailing list > [email protected] > http://mailman.trailing-edge.com/mailman/listinfo/simh _______________________________________________ Simh mailing list [email protected] http://mailman.trailing-edge.com/mailman/listinfo/simh
