On 2016-03-15 14:13, Paul Koning wrote:

On Mar 15, 2016, at 5:47 AM, Johnny Billquist <b...@softjar.se> wrote:

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I don't remember who I talk to, but it might have been Paul, but it appears 
DECnet-8 is pretty much Phase I, from what we figured out. Maybe DEC wrote some 
newer version that have not been found, since documentation and SPDs mention 
Phase II.

I saw an RTS/8 document that describes Phase I -- studied it some to see what 
Phase I protocol looks like.  The answer is: significantly different from Phase 
II, not interoperable, no plausible way to make it interoperate.  The key 
problem is that the NSP details are different, so a Phase I endpoint trying to 
talk to a Phase II endpoint would get lost.  Compare that to Phase II through 
IV where the NSP is basically the same -- Phase III adds retransmission, but 
the packet formats are upward compatible.

But I also remember hearing about Phase II on PDP-8 systems.  So it seems 
likely that Phase I was created at some time, only to be superseded by a Phase 
II implementation.

Like I said, I can't remember if it was you or someone else I was talking about DECNET-8 with.

But there are some things that looks slightly inconsistent with what I understood from Phase I, but it also seemed pretty clear not to be Phase II. But I'd be happy to look more at it, if someone is interested.

And I think Bob asked about the physical links. DECNET-8 do use standard serial ports, and there is a DDCMP implementation in the software.

        Johnny

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