> On 22 Apr 2016, at 17:44, Johnny Billquist <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> On 2016-04-22 16:39, Johnny Billquist wrote:
>> On 2016-04-22 16:25, Sampsa Laine wrote:
>>> 
>>> Actually we had this idea with Steve Davidson where we’d build a
>>> crypto-coprocessor in Python on the host OS and somehow hook it up
>>> (via say a serial port) to a PDP-11 and have the host OS do all the
>>> RSA, AES, SHA, MD5 operations that way and the SSH server on the
>>> PDP-11 would just be a shim to implement the SSH protocol.
>>> 
>>> It’s quite easily doable in Python since it comes with all the crypto
>>> libraries pre-built, Johnny, you interested in something like this for
>>> adding SSH to your RSX TCP/IP stack?
>> 
>> No. That would be pretty much meaningless, as there are options and
>> stuff done in SSH which affects what should happen on the system as
>> well. You cannot move ssh outside, and still have the functionality in
>> place.
> 
> Actually, if you talk about just offloading the crypto-work, I guess that 
> could be done. But then you'd need some kind of device where you could pass 
> certificates and encrypted streams, and get the results after those steps, as 
> well as the reverse.

That is EXACTLY what we were thinking of doing..

> But that would mean implementing a sortof ssh that would depend on this 
> special ssh-cyrpto-device to work, so not usable on a real pdp-11 (not that 
> ssh will ever be possible on a real pdp-11 anyway).

Well, you COULD have the python-crypto-engine hooked up to a serial port on the 
PDP-11 and a UNIX box :)

> 
> I seriously doubt I'd ever do this, but if someone else wants to, they could 
> grab my telnet server (sources are included), and just add the work in that 
> code to deal with ssh.

If you do, let me know, I’m happy to write the crypto-engine..

> 
>> How do you think something like sftp works?
> This is somewhere where it gets even more interesting, as you here then need 
> to fire off a process instead of giving a shell (or equivalent). And then 
> deal with all the details of it.

No comments on this :)

Sampsa

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