<joke> What about the editor from ISPF on OS/390? That looks pretty nifty 
</joke>

> On 31 May 2016, at 19:57, Johnny Billquist <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi, Bob.
> 
> On 2016-05-31 18:09, Robert Armstrong wrote:
>>> "Small" in this case is more than 10 times the size of NEMA...
>> 
>>  Sorry, I'm joining this conversation late, but has anybody brought up JOVE? 
>>  It's a pretty good Emacs clone and it runs on 2.11bsd.  If it can run under 
>> BSD on a PDP11, it ought to be able to run under RSX!! :-)
> 
> Welcome to the party.
> Yes, Jove was one of the first things I looked at, since I do use it under 
> 2BSD. However, porting that thing turned out to be hairier than a monkey. It 
> intentionally avoids using the C standard I/O library, with the motivation 
> that they wanted it to be portable. And they have conditionals all over the 
> code. Unfortunately, not based on features or functionality available, but on 
> OS. So you have lots of #ifdef msdos, and whatnot, and if you have one 
> function or behavior like msdos in one place, you need to go in the code and 
> add your conditionals there too, as you obviously do not want to claim that 
> you are msdos, since that would pull in all the other msdos-specific parts as 
> well, which you probably do *not* want. :-)
> 
> And it is very Unix-centric, even if people have managed to port it elsewhere.
> 
>       Johnny

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