On 1/14/2017 8:29 AM, Clement T. Cole wrote:
Hmmm. I've forgotten / not sure I ever knew -- but I did not think TSS-8 was an official product. I may be confusing / mixing memories here 🤔 - but I thought I remember the sources kicking around. (In truth, I'm not sure I c |an help much as I was late to TSS-8).
All of the TSS/8 customers received source listings. There's a set of sources available for download apparently from someone who retyped the source. TSS/8 was definitely a real DEC product, but I doubt it was ever sold unbundled from hardware. For reference, my first job at DEC was in the group that did worldwide support for PDP-8 systems, including the schools running TSS/8.
Anyway, I always thought it was created by a customer and DEC educational system group redistributed it. ???Maybe try checking some DECUS archives from the late 1960s/early 1970s if possible???
The ideas around TSS/8 (timesharing mode) came from a research project at CMU. CMU and DEC collaborated to build the initial TSS/8 system.

You may be thinking of EDUsystem-50, which was the TSS/8 rebranding by the edu group. Several EDUsystem variants existed, from single-user BASIC systems up to TSS/8 multiuser.

Apparently this is covered by the blanket license grant making all DEC PDP-8 software public domain. (Thanks, Bob!)
    -Rick

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On Jan 14, 2017, at 4:06 AM, Warren Young <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

I'm the current maintainer of the PiDP-8/I software project <https://tangentsoft.com/pidp8i/wiki?name=Home>. I've been going through the files we distribute to make sure we have proper licenses for them and have come up short on a few things: the TSS-8 and ETOS disk images. I've simply been unable to find any indication online that they were ever licensed for free redistribution.

I'm posting here because this list was recommended as a place where someone might know whether these OSes were ever formally licensed for free redistribution.

Since TSS-8 was a DEC product, I'm hoping that it was released under the "hobbyist" licenses they offered at some point. I expect I could sign up for the current OpenVMS hobbyist license, but I have no interest in agreeing to it just to see if it covers this software. Perhaps someone who has agreed to it could confirm this guess? The web site seems to just talk about VMS, which I have no interest in.

As for ETOS, that wasn't a DEC product, so I have no better guess for where to go trying to find a license for it other than web search engines, and I've already struck out there.
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