Does anyone have a link to (or a copy of) the original Hobbyist license agreement, I'd really like to read it.

It hasĀ  been my understanding for a LONG time, that license PAKs are not a guarantee that you've actually licensed anything.

While the Hobbyist License PAKs are expiring, does your actual right-to-use expire with the PAKs according to the license? Does it specifically say that when the PAKs expire, you lose your right to use the software?

I see a few different cross-purposes in this thread.

1) You have a Hobby license but run it for commercial purposes (hence, illegal). 2) You have a commercial license. The PAKs you have should never expire. I have a crap-load of them from when I saved them from the garbage at a consulting customer of mine. They are NOT legal for me to use commercially. Likewise, just because you bought a license PAK off of eBay, doesn't mean you have the "right" to use that software. 3) You have a hobbyist license, but they are not renewing PAKs for you. The license itself, depending on it's terms, might offer you relief in some way.

art k.

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