Yes, this do simplify things even more.
All you need to do is a one time install of whatever package you want.
Then maintenance of an RSX system is essentially just a question of "RPM
ALL". However, a possible additional complication is that if TCP/IP have
been updated, you will want to do a reboot. So you need to somehow
detect if that happened. I have some ideas on how you could check for
that after updating, so that it can all be a bit more automated, but for
a start, the simple "RPM ALL" is essentially doing almost all the work
for you.
Johnny
On 2020-05-31 17:05, Mark Matlock wrote:
Johnny,
This is a very interesting development!! As someone who is updating about 6
RSX systems with your TCP/IP system on a roughly weekly basis this is of keen
interest to me. I like the idea of keeping the IPCONFIG separate from RPM since
the network configuration can be so customized especially with the HECnet over
IP capabilities.
This is really a revolutionary way to handle RSX software installation and
maintenance!
Thanks,
Mark
On May 31, 2020, at 9:54 AM, Johnny Billquist <b...@softjar.se> wrote:
Ok. Thanks for inspiring me.
I now also have TCP/IP as a package under RPM.
A couple of comments about it are in place:
1) It's *big* You'll need atleast about 25.000 free blocks to install or
update. So nothing for anyone with an RL02 as the system disk.
2) It will do the install/update, but it will not start TCP/IP. You will still
need the separate scripts for TCP/IP in LB:[1,2]STARTUP.CMD in order to start
the whole thing. RPM can only be used for the updating of the system.
3) Because of some issues, RPM will also not be able to automatically handle any updates
to your IP configuration as such. So after doing an update of TCP/IP, you might want to
do that by hand, which is done by running "LB:[IP]IPCONFIG UPD". If you are
downloading the distribution itself, things runs just like before.
4) Depending on your internet connection, updating this package might take a
little while. I have also observed some issues with some sneaky FTP proxy
interfering with FTP transfers from MIM. If you are getting errors and timeouts
doing transfers over FTP, try changing the source to be mim.update.uu.se:10021
instead.
Johnny
On 2020-05-31 10:04, R. Voorhorst wrote:
Nice functionality to arrive so easily at a well-kept updated environment!
Big question now obviously appearing: will TCP/IP follow suit or is that not
so suitable concerning the host machine?
Thanks,
Reindert
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Subject: Re: [PiDP-11] Re: [HECnet] Announcing RPM, a software packet manager
for RSX-11M-PLUS
On 2020-05-30 22:04, Mark Matlock wrote:
On May 30, 2020, at 10:38 AM, Johnny Billquist <b...@softjar.se> wrote:
Since I'm on a roll today, I figure I should announce the availability of a new
tool for RSX, which I think most hobbyists will find rather useful.
RPM is a packet manager for RSX (it has nothing to do with the Red Hat Packet
Manager, except the name).
Johnny,
I love not only the new RPM software repository tool but also all the
updated software tools. A few of the software packages that RPM listed were
even new to me!
You're welcome. And have have *lots* of more software. It will just take a lot
of time to work through it all and create packages for it.
Also, I was behind in getting the latest versions of your NEMA, MKE and
several others. This will make it very easy to stay current.
Similar problem to my own... What version did I now have on that machine? Did I
do any updates since I last installed there? What software do I actually have?
And where is it...?
Thanks for this and also thanks for the latest version of your TCP/IP
system.
Happy to provide it. And it looks like it has already seen some action, based
on the ftp logs at MIM... :-)
Johnny
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|| on a psychedelic trip
email: b...@softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
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Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: b...@softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
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