@Larry: Thanks for the heads up on your busy schedule; I figured that
was the case.  I appreciate your help you are providing under those
circumstances.

I've switched to loading the javascript from the google repo:
> Timeline_ajax_url = "http://simile-widgets.googlecode.com/svn/ajax/
> trunk/src/webapp/api/simile-ajax-api.js?bundle=false";

I ended up having to switch the timeline_js to load from google as
well.  It looks like I have the same problem, but things are no worse
than before -- so I have pushed the changes to our live site:
http://auvac.org/resources/infographic/timeline/

As you can see, it still loads fine in Firefox but in IE the events
are missing from the otherwise fully-functional timeline.  The data
file for the events is here:
http://auvac.org/resources/infographic/xml/auv_system_timeline.xml.php

Can you see problems with either of those?

-Ian


On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 11:55 PM, LarryK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Sorry Ian,
>
> I'm really really busy, startup mode and all that.
>
> Anyhow, what is happening is that the timeline-ajax files are also in
> the "unbundled" mode--wanting to load the individual files for debug
> purposes. But the ajax files are not in the Timeline source zip file.
> You need to include the ajax source files into your directory.
> There is no zip file for the ajax src files.
> You can use svn and export them, or you can download them one at a
> time from the repository, see
> http://simile-widgets.googlecode.com/svn/ajax/trunk/src/webapp/api/scripts/
>
> Or the easiest way might be to have your page load the ajax files from
> the google repo. For testing, it should be okay:
> Timeline_ajax_url = "http://simile-widgets.googlecode.com/svn/ajax/
> trunk/src/webapp/api/simile-ajax-api.js?bundle=false";
>
> Let us know how it goes.
>
> Larry
>
>
> On Nov 7, 10:51 am, "Ian Katz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> @LarryK -
>>
>> EIther you're very busy, or I've said something really stupid and
>> you've moved on.  There were some files missing from the timeline zip
>> file I downloaded, which I had taken directly from the SVN repository
>> (tagged 2.2.0).  Can you send me a link to the zip file that I should
>> be using?
>>
>> -Ian
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 6:22 PM, Ian Katz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > It looks like a lot of files are missing from the
>> > timeline_ajax/scripts directory.  Here is a partial list of them:
>> > jquery-1.2.6.js
>> > platform.js
>> > debug.js
>> > xmlhttp.js
>> > json.js
>> > dom.js
>> > graphics.js
>> > date-time.js
>> > string.js
>> > ...
>>
>> > This is the file I got:
>> >http://simile-widgets.googlecode.com/svn/timeline/tags/2.2.0/timeline...
>>
>> > This is what's in it:
>> > timeline_2.2.0/
>> > timeline_2.2.0/CHANGES.txt
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_ajax
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_ajax/simile-ajax-api.js
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_ajax/images
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_ajax/images/bubble-bottom-right.png
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_ajax/images/message-right.png
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_ajax/images/bubble-top-right.png
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_ajax/images/bubble-bottom-left.png
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_ajax/images/bubble-left-arrow.png
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_ajax/images/bubble-top-arrow.png
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_ajax/images/message-left.png
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_ajax/images/bubble-top.png
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_ajax/images/message-top-left.png
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_ajax/images/close-button.png
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_ajax/images/message-top-right.png
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_ajax/images/message-bottom-left.png
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_ajax/images/message-bottom-right.png
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_ajax/images/bubble-bottom-arrow.png
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_ajax/images/bubble-top-left.png
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_ajax/images/bubble-left.png
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_ajax/images/bubble-bottom.png
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_ajax/images/bubble-right-arrow.png
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_ajax/images/copy.png
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_ajax/images/bubble-right.png
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_ajax/scripts
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_ajax/scripts/signal.js
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_ajax/simile-ajax-bundle.js
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_js
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_js/timeline-api.js
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_js/images
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_js/images/green-circle.png
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_js/images/bubble-bottom-right.png
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_js/images/message-right.png
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_js/images/bubble-top-right.png
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_js/images/bubble-bottom-left.png
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_js/images/bubble-left-arrow.png
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_js/images/top-bubble.png
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_js/images/dark-blue-circle.png
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_js/images/bubble-top-arrow.png
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_js/images/message-left.png
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_js/images/dull-blue-circle.png
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_js/images/gray-circle.png
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_js/images/dark-green-circle.png
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_js/images/bubble-top.png
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_js/images/message-top-left.png
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_js/images/progress-running.gif
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_js/images/blue-circle.png
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_js/images/close-button.png
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_js/images/dull-red-circle.png
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_js/images/message-top-right.png
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_js/images/red-circle.png
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_js/images/copyright.png
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_js/images/message-bottom-left.png
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_js/images/message-bottom-right.png
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_js/images/bubble-bottom-arrow.png
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_js/images/copyright-vertical.png
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_js/images/bubble-top-left.png
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_js/images/dull-green-circle.png
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_js/images/dark-red-circle.png
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_js/images/bubble-left.png
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_js/images/bubble-bottom.png
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_js/images/bubble-right-arrow.png
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_js/images/bubble-right.png
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_js/scripts
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_js/scripts/l10n
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_js/scripts/l10n/vi
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_js/scripts/l10n/vi/timeline.js
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_js/scripts/l10n/vi/labellers.js
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_js/scripts/l10n/nl
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_js/scripts/l10n/nl/timeline.js
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_js/scripts/l10n/nl/labellers.js
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_js/scripts/l10n/es
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_js/scripts/l10n/es/timeline.js
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_js/scripts/l10n/es/labellers.js
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_js/scripts/l10n/de
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_js/scripts/l10n/de/timeline.js
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_js/scripts/l10n/de/labellers.js
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_js/scripts/l10n/tr
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_js/scripts/l10n/tr/timeline.js
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_js/scripts/l10n/tr/labellers.js
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_js/scripts/l10n/ru
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_js/scripts/l10n/ru/timeline.js
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_js/scripts/l10n/ru/labellers.js
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_js/scripts/l10n/cs
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_js/scripts/l10n/cs/timeline.js
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_js/scripts/l10n/cs/labellers.js
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_js/scripts/l10n/se
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_js/scripts/l10n/se/timeline.js
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_js/scripts/l10n/se/labellers.js
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_js/scripts/l10n/zh
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_js/scripts/l10n/zh/timeline.js
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_js/scripts/l10n/zh/labellers.js
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_js/scripts/l10n/fr
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_js/scripts/l10n/fr/timeline.js
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_js/scripts/l10n/fr/labellers.js
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_js/scripts/l10n/it
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_js/scripts/l10n/it/timeline.js
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_js/scripts/l10n/it/labellers.js
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_js/scripts/l10n/en
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_js/scripts/l10n/en/timeline.js
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_js/scripts/l10n/en/labellers.js
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_js/timeline-bundle.js
>> > timeline_2.2.0/timeline_js/timeline-bundle.css
>> > timeline_2.2.0/README.txt
>> > timeline_2.2.0/LICENSE.txt
>>
>> > Did I download the wrong zip file?
>>
>> > -Ian
>>
>> > On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 5:35 PM, LarryK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> >> Hi Ian,
>>
>> >> Re errors:
>>
>> >> Look in the FF Firebug 'Net" tab. Then click the All button. You
>> >> should see a list of all the files loaded and attempted to be loaded
>> >> by the browser.
>> >> Also, when you do your load in the browser (after having made the
>> >> change), use shift-load (shift key and the load button). That way your
>> >> cache will be refreshed.
>> >> Usually the cause for the error you're getting is a missing source
>> >> file--you need all of the source when you run unbundled.
>> >> You'll see it on the firebug list in bright red since the browser
>> >> couldn't load it.
>>
>> >> I certainly agree with you about having it partly work than not at
>> >> all.
>>
>> >> If you can't solve the unbundled issue then you can send me a login
>> >> via private reply.
>>
>> >> Re: the xml file looks ok along with the content-type --
>> >> I agree -- and the fact that they look fine is why I'm interested in
>> >> helping debug your problem.
>>
>> >> Regards,
>>
>> >> Larry
>>
>> >> On Nov 5, 4:33 pm, "Ian Katz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >>> With "bundle=false", it doesn't work in any browser; I get an empty
>> >>> div.  The firefox error console gives me this:
>>
>> >>> Error: Timeline.strings is undefined
>> >>> Source 
>> >>> File:http://auvac-staging.auvac.org/libs/simile/timeline/timeline_js/scrip...
>> >>> Line: 7
>>
>> >>> Error: Timeline.GregorianDateLabeller is undefined
>> >>> Source 
>> >>> File:http://auvac-staging.auvac.org/libs/simile/timeline/timeline_js/scrip...
>> >>> Line: 6
>>
>> >>> Error: Timeline.DefaultEventSource is not a constructor
>> >>> Source 
>> >>> File:http://auvac-staging.auvac.org/resources/infographic/timeline/timelin...
>> >>> Line: 3
>>
>> >>> Let me know if you need to see this in action, and I'll set up a
>> >>> user/password for you on our preview site.  (I'd rather have a
>> >>> half-functioning timeline than a non-functioning timeline)
>>
>> >>> As for the xml file
>> >>> (http://auvac.org/resources/infographic/xml/auv_system_timeline.xml.php),
>> >>> I'm not sure what could be wrong with it.  The content-type is
>> >>> "text/xml" and firefox doesn't complain about the syntax.  What else
>> >>> should I be looking for?
>>
>> >>> -Ian
>>
>> >>> On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 4:09 PM, LarryK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >>> > @ Ian,
>> >>> > I'm interested to see why you're having the problem. I tried to debug
>> >>> > it but you're using the mini-fied bundle files. For development and
>> >>> > debugging, you need to use the full source and no bundling.
>>
>> >>> > Currently your  timeline-init.js file is
>> >>> > Timeline_ajax_url="/libs/simile/timeline/timeline_ajax/simile-ajax-
>> >>> > api.js";
>> >>> > Timeline_urlPrefix='/libs/simile/timeline/timeline_js/';
>> >>> > Timeline_parameters='bundle=true';
>>
>> >>> > Please change it to
>> >>> > Timeline_ajax_url="/libs/simile/timeline/timeline_ajax/simile-ajax-
>> >>> > api.js?bundle=false";
>> >>> > Timeline_urlPrefix='/libs/simile/timeline/timeline_js/';
>> >>> > Timeline_parameters='bundle=false';
>>
>> >>> > That should make the system use the individual files for both Timeline
>> >>> > and the Simile Ajax lib.
>> >>> > It should work exactly the same as it does now, on all the browsers.
>> >>> > Then send another note to this list and I'll have another look at it.
>>
>> >>> > My guess is that the IE Ajax lib is not happy about some aspect of
>> >>> > your data file's transmission format or xml content.
> >
>

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