Hi John,

Timeline and Exhibit are separate projects. Exhibit uses the Timeline software. 

Both are successful, judging by their many users around the world. Both are 
being actively maintained and developed.

Please don't have your pages link to the trunk software on Google, it'll be too 
slow and that's not the right use of the Google open source hosting system.
Use a local copy of the trunk or a released version from the MIT server.

Additional comments are below.

Thanks for using the software, we'd appreciate any help you can extend to the 
projects: documentation, testing, development, etc.

We'd also like to include links to any applications that you develop in the 
wiki. Please let us know as they become publicly available. 

Regards,

Larry




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From: John Callahan <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 9:51:51 AM
Subject: local hosting of Exhibit and Timeline


I have a few projects that will go live soon using Exhibit, some use 
several exhibit extensions, some use only the Timeline extension.  My 
thought was to host the code locally.  It seemed like a best practice 
for production services. Also, I wanted access to the latest Exhibit and 
Timeline trunk code.  I was successful in checking out the latest trunk 
version for Exhibit and running it locally.  A few quick thoughts:


1) Is it best practice to locally host the Exhibit/Timeline code?   Or 
could/should I point to the trunk version on the Google Code servers?  
(I know "trunk" and "production" usually don't sit well with each other 
but that's OK for these projects for now!)

[I think if you already have your own production servers then it makes sense to 
locally host the software for your own applications. That way you're more 
vertically integrated. The MIT server is a free service. It is quite reliable 
but has been know to fail. It does not have a dedicated support staff. 

On the other hand, many users of the Exhibit and Timeline software do not have 
their own servers or do not have the budget or expertise to keep a server 
running and secure. For those folks, using the MIT server is an excellent 
option. 

No one should link their html pages to the software on the Google svn 
repository. It will be too slow and is not set up for that usge. Use the MIT 
server instead.
]

2) I know the Google Maps markers depend on a painter service hosted on 
simile.mit.edu.  Could that be part of the source code for Exhibit?  OR 
a separate checkout?  Or if useLocalResources=true, then maybe you can 
use a standard set of png markers that is included locally.
[My understanding is that the painter service for Exhibit is already a part of 
the Exhibit open source code. Search this email list for more information about 
the painter service and its source location.]


3) As FYI, I followed this doc: 
http://simile.mit.edu/wiki/Exhibit/2.0/Running_Exhibit_Yourself.  
(http://www.stevetrefethen.com/blog/HostingMITsSimileExhibitOSProject.aspx 
as well but seemed a bit off in some cases.)


4) Timeline vs Exhibit Timeline extension.  Are these essentially the 
same thing?  It looks like the Exhibit Timeline extension calls the 
Timeline project code on static.simile.mit.edu, even when Exhibit is 
hosted locally.  So, if I want the latest Timeline features, I would 
need to svn checkout the Timeline trunk and host that locally as well.  
Is that correct?
[Yes, I believe that you're right, but others are more expert than me on these 
issues.]

I would love to question the future of Timeline and whether it would be 
rolled into Exhibit or stay its own project.  I just don't know about 
about all the pros and cons of each, and how that relates to Timeplot, 
Calendar/Timegrid, etc...   Personally, I would prefer to work with 
Exhibit only with the ability to turn on/off extensions as needed.  
Thanks. 

[Timeline will stay a separate project since it has many standalone clients.
Exhibit is an extremely important client of Timeline. Exhibit is very flexible 
and I believe that folks have added new extensions to it on their own.]

- John

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John Callahan
Geospatial Application Developer
Delaware Geological Survey, University of Delaware
227 Academy St, Newark DE 19716-7501
Tel: (302) 831-3584  
Email: [email protected]
http://www.dgs.udel.edu
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