Perfect. Thanks for the link and the project.   I actually ran into SMW 
while looking for better ways to tag the SIMILE examples in Mediawiki 
when I first started moving them over.  Yes, I think it's an excellent 
idea and could be extremely useful if it's flexible enough.  (One of the 
primary reasons I use Drupal is the amount of control I have over the 
format/tags of user input as well as customizable query/feed/display 
options.) 

 From a quick look, the first thing that comes to mind is to use Wibit 
for all of the SIMILE wiki documentation.   Pages from old MIT wiki and 
the new Mediawiki wiki could move to a new instance of Wibit.  (I still 
need to read more closely on the differences between the Exhibit Result 
Printer and JSON Exporter.) 


How easy are the page edit forms to create?   You would likely need 
several forms for different types of content each with their own 
vocabularies.  Can you use controlled vocabs as well as free tagging?  
And multiple vocabs per form/template?  

Also, once pages are created and tagged, are there ways other than 
Exhibit to search/browse through the data?   For example, such as 
creating dynamic menus based on a single (or multiple) vocabularies?  Or 
an auto generated sitemap?  Or something like a table of contents or 
glossary index?  


Are the pages in SMW actually marked up with RDFa as defined in the edit 
form?   Google's new Rich Snippets (and other semantic search engines) 
could take advantage of it.

- John



David Karger wrote:
> John, this is a really nice piece of work.  But I think a potentially
> better way to host this data (because it makes it easy for anyone to
> edit) is in a fully exhibit-enabled wiki.  We've got one here:
> http://projects.csail.mit.edu/wibit/
> It's actually a semantic mediawiki, which adds some interesting
> capabilities. In particular, as you suggest below, you can create a page
> for each resource with useful text and metadata (and create a form for
> editing the data on such pages), which would then be aggregated into the
> exhibit, but could also be emitted as json for someone else to use in
> another setting.
>
> We've wanted to do a bit more tweaking before suggesting this be used as
> a repository of exhibit resources, but since you've already taken the
> leap, would you like to take a look and think about whether it would be
> an effective repository?  I can help you figure out how to use it if you
> need.
>
> -David
>
> John Callahan wrote:
>   
>> I had started to migrate the examples from the old wiki and elsewhere
>> on the web over to the new wiki.  While doing so, it made sense to me
>> to include other resources, like blog posts or third-party apps that
>> make use of SIMILE widgets.  It also made sense to include information
>> from all SIMILE projects.  So, I created an Exhibit (powered by a
>> Google Spreadsheet) of all the resources I found and linked them from
>> the new wiki home:
>>
>>
>> http://www.simile-widgets.org/wiki/   (up to 153 resources!)
>>
>>
>> A few thoughts...
>>
>> 1. It would be nice if this Exhibit was not on my server (geo42.com)
>> but rather directly on simile-widgets.org.  (and styled a bit nicer as
>> well!)    I've tried a few things to add the necessary javascript
>> components to the wiki but I do not believe I have permission to do
>> so.  Is this something worthwhile to add to the main s-w.org site?
>>
>>
>> 2. Using a Google spreadsheet is the best way I know for community
>> maintenance of this data.  It's easy to turn into a JSON feed as input
>> to Exhibit.  My first thought was to create a new wiki page for each
>> resource, tag it sufficiently, then somehow generate a JSON feed with
>> all the appropriate tags as attributes.  I can do this in Drupal but
>> couldn't figure it out with Mediawiki.  (that method is probably
>> overkill anyway.)   If necessary, does anyone have another idea
>> besides a Google spreadsheet?   (of course, a custom PHP/MySQL app
>> would work if anyone wants to code it up.) 
>>
>>
>> 3. The attributes in the spreadsheet are very limited: title,
>> description, SIMILE project, type of resource, In The Wild or
>> homegrown, does it include a map, does it include a graph, and URL. 
>> Of course, it'd be nice to have things like a screenshot image, the
>> software version, features used, date published, person/org, etc...  
>> However, IMO, this information would be difficult to maintain.  As
>> well, I don't know how to find that information easily for many of the
>> entries.  Although some info *may* be better than none.    Any
>> thoughts here?
>>
>>
>> (Wouldn't it be nice to have a script that went through the URLs of
>> each resource, tested the URL to make sure it's alive, and parsed the
>> HTML/javascript code to determine which SIMILE product it's using and
>> what features are enabled?  :-)    )
>>
>>
>> - John
>> **************************************************
>> John Callahan
>> Geospatial Application Developer
>> Delaware Geological Survey, University of Delaware
>> 227 Academy St, Newark DE 19716-7501
>> Tel: (302) 831-3584  
>> Email: [email protected]
>> http://www.dgs.udel.edu
>> **************************************************
>>
>>   
>>
>>
>> David Karger wrote:
>>     
>>> David Huynh wrote:
>>>   
>>>       
>>>> Rob wrote:
>>>>   
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>> Hey,
>>>>>
>>>>> I am in the process of creating an exhibit which highlights all the
>>>>> eateries on the MIT campus. Right now, I'm trying to think of
>>>>> classifier values that will allow users to filter through these
>>>>> eateries.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is what I have so far:
>>>>>
>>>>> American, Breakfast, Bakery, Cafe, Catering, Deli, Desert, Dinner,
>>>>> Ethnic, Grocery, Healthy, Lunch, Made on Order, Mexican, On the Go,
>>>>> Pizza, Prepared, Pub, Soup, Sit Down, Sushi, Vegetarian
>>>>>   
>>>>>     
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>> That sounds like "cuisine".
>>>>   
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>> Actually I would break it down further, into e.g. cuisine (american,
>>> mexican, sushi), meal (breakfast, lunch, dinner), preparation (made to
>>> order, on the go, prepared...)
>>>
>>> You might also look at this exhibit for some ideas:
>>> http://gvn.rhizomatics.org.uk/glasgowguide.html
>>>
>>> (which is on the examples page at
>>> http://simile.mit.edu/wiki/Exhibit/Examples , which should really get
>>> migrated to the new wiki).
>>>   
>>>       
>>>>   
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>> I'd appreciate any suggestions you have that would help filter the
>>>>> eateries even more.
>>>>>   
>>>>>     
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>> How about...
>>>> - price range: $, $$, $$$,... or, $10 - 15, $15 - 20, ...
>>>> - delivery?
>>>> - open hours
>>>> - accept credit cards?
>>>> - geolocation
>>>> - health rating
>>>> - free wi-fi?
>>>> - has vegetarian dishes?
>>>> - has student discount?
>>>> - ambiance
>>>> - how many T stops away, distance to closest T stop
>>>>
>>>> David
>>>>
>>>>     
>>>>         
>
> >
>   

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