I would think your original idea would help solve the issues...

>> Therefore, would there be any interest to an output action which would
>> leave the output open/running/connected, so that the next access of the
>> same output would not have to do reopen/restart/connect again? This
>> action would have to support a number of output types, e.g.,

-----Original Message-----
From: Risto Vaarandi [mailto:risto.vaara...@seb.ee]
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 8:26 AM
To: Busko, Steve
Cc: Simple-evcorr-users
Subject: Re: [Simple-evcorr-users] extending output types (RabbitMQ)

hi Steve,
unfortunately, I am not too familiar with the RabbitMQ protocol as a
developer, thus it is hard for me to tell how complex it would be to
implement in the sec code. Nevertheless, my strong feeling is that it is
much better idea to have it implemented not as a modification to the
core code, but rather as a separate Perl module which can be loaded at
sec startup. The number of potential application layer protocols is
unfortunately vast, and providing active support and updates to many of
them is a pretty hard task. On the other hand, since using code from
external modules is quite easy with sec, I feel that support for
specific protocols is best implemented in custom perl modules (also,
there could be something already written at CPAN).
However, since you have already apparently developed some code for
RabbitMQ, why not to release it as a separate module to the public
domain? There is a sec rule repository at the tool's home page which can
be used for hosting this code. Also, if you separate your additions from
core code into a module, upgrading sec will become much more easy.
kind regards,
risto

On 02/11/2013 10:12 PM, Busko, Steve wrote:
> Hello Ristro,
>
> While I don't have specific implementation feedback on this topic, I did want 
> to throw in that, like Gary, we are also using RabbitMQ and would like to see 
> sec integrate in some way possibly affecting this thread in part.
>
> Initially we used pipes, but found them not robust enough. So we tried 
> RabbitMQ and have been much happier with the flexibility and control. We have 
> been running it for around 6 months in a development environment taking in 
> around low 40s msgs/sec from a single syslog source and outputs slightly less 
> than half that into a single DB. In our case we didn't do anything fancy to 
> integrate, just inserted the MQ perl code/functionality directly into sec and 
> created an additional "queue" command to use vs. a write.
>
> So we would like to support both the use of RabbitMQ and the consideration of 
> integrating it (or as a plug-in) with sec.
>
> Regards,
> Steve Busko | NOC Tools Manager
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Risto Vaarandi [mailto:risto.vaara...@seb.ee]
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 12:38 PM
>> To: Simple-evcorr-users
>> Subject: [Simple-evcorr-users] extending output types
>>
>> hi all,
>>
>> as you know, currently there are number of outputs which are not
>> directly supported by sec. For example, with 'pipe' action one can feed
>> only one event to an external program (with most programs exiting after
>> the 'pipe' action closes the pipe). Also, the 'write' action opens a
>> given file before each access and closes it afterwards. While this makes
>> output file rotation worry-free, it is not very efficient. Finally, sec
>> does not directly support various sockets as output (for example, it is
>> not possible to connect directly to a syslog server on another host and
>> issue syslog events without any intermediaries).
>>
>> Therefore, would there be any interest to an output action which would
>> leave the output open/running/connected, so that the next access of the
>> same output would not have to do reopen/restart/connect again? This
>> action would have to support a number of output types, e.g.,
>>
>> write2 udp myserver:514 This is my event
>> write2 tcp myserver:514 Another event
>> write2 file /var/log/myevents Third event
>> write2 program /bin/logger -p user.notice Fourth event
>>
>> It is probably easy to see that with sockets and files it is not that
>> hard to distinguish them from each other, since the filename or server
>> name plus port number can serve as unique identifiers. With command
>> lines, however, it is somewhat more difficult, since an extra space or
>> different ordering of options makes two command lines different, even if
>> their effect is exactly the same. Also, since sec uses positional
>> parameters, there is an issue with parsing, although this could be
>> solved with the use of (). In addition, one workaround for both issues
>> would be storing command line in an action list variable.
>> The action outlines above would also need an output rotation mechanism,
>> but this could be implemented with adding this to SIGUSR2 handler
>> (closing all currently open outputs).
>>
>> Would the action above be of interest, and are there any other ideas for
>> handling these situations?
>>
>> kind regards,
>> risto
>>
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