Hi Richard:

In message
<caj69-dfkwv+bnuy7vipijt8ezof3fpz8eahuj1bbvzysno3...@mail.gmail.com>,
Richard_Ostrochovsk writes:
>this post loosely follows this one:
>https://sourceforge.net/p/simple-evcorr/mailman/message/36867007/.
>
>Being monitoring consultant and developer, I have
>an idea to hide complexity of SEC configurations,
>and still to allow to configure it also for
>"regular" administrators without any developer or
>SEC background.

Being a "regular" administrator, I claim admins
that can't program/use programming methods won't
be admins much longer. If the companies you work
for are depending on (rapidly turning over) junior
admins to administer something as important as
monitoring and correlation you have a difficult
job ahead of you.

Knowing regular expressions at the very least is
required to use SEC. Getting performance info out
of SEC is better, but still
difficult. E.G. finding and fixing expensive/poor
regular expressions can result in a significant
improvement of performance/throughput along with
hierarchical structuring of the rulesets.

>Imagined concept illustration:
>
>[configuration DB] -> [generator(s)] -> [SEC configurations]
>
>The punch line is, that user won't need to know
>anything about SEC, but will need to understand
>logic of correlations employed, and their
>parameters

I assume you mean regular expressions, threholds,
actions and commands etc.

>(configuration DB may have some kind of GUI). In
>the background, higher-level correlations will be
>translated to respective SEC rules.

There was a web interface referenced back in 2007
at:

https://sourceforge.net/p/simple-evcorr/mailman/simple-evcorr-users/thread/op.tnxvfselqmj61d%40genius/#msg6200380

The url's are dead but I have a copy of secadmin
from 2009 I have put it up at:

  https://www.cs.umb.edu/~rouilj/sec/secadmin.tar.gz

It doesn't use a back end db IIRC but it was
supposed to provide some guidance on creating the
correlation rules. Note that it would have to be
updated as new rules have been added since it was
developed. Also I think it ily supported the basic
sec correlations.

Risto do you remember this?

>Maybe there exists something similar as described
>- if somebody knows about something, I'd like if
>he or she will navigate me to it. If it does not
>exist, maybe this is potential opportunity for
>implementation, and this way also SEC could be
>more propagated, as still alive alternative to
>other newer solutions usable for event
>correlations, e.g. based on ELK (I see big
>advantage of SEC, that it does not need separate
>application infrastructure for log collection and
>processing).  Any opinions about this topic?

One thing I had played with was using templates to
create new correlation types by deploying a set of
basic correlations (pair, single, and single
with threshold for example) into a single unit
tied together by specifying fill-in parameters
(regular expressions, threshold counts etc.). I
used filepp to expand the correlation files into
something that sec could consume.

This was done at a previous employer. I don't
think I have any of that work anymore. But it was
able to generate more complex correlations with a
simpler interface for others to fill in.

Maybe this provides some ideas?

--
                                -- rouilj
John Rouillard
===========================================================================
My employers don't acknowledge my existence much less my opinions.


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