At 11:58 AM +0300 12/7/01, Technical Support, Stalker Labs  imposed 
structure on a stream of electrons, yielding:
>Hello,
>
>On Fri, Dec 7, 2001, 03:26:42 GMT
>   323, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>Would SIMS give this kind of error to someone attempting to send mail to one
>>of my accounts? Or is it on there end?
>>
>>
>>  because: a
>>               Permanent Error 472 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cannot be
>>               verified now
>
>472 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cannot be verified now
>
>Yes, if there are problems with resolving the domain name phoenix.gov

Yes, but SIMS would never use the words "Permanent Error"  so 
something else is involved here.

In fact a 472 from SIMS (or any other MTA) *NEVER* should be 
interpreted as a permanent error because (as the SIMS error message 
that Dmitry quoted implies) this is a problem of 'now' not something 
eternal or sure. The 472 is what SIMS sends when it gets nothing from 
DNS when verifying a return-path. When SIMS gets a NXDOMAIN (i.e. an 
affirmative DNS response that a domain doesn't exist) it will send a 
572 instead.

IOW: DNS was broken for phoenix.gov, perhaps temporarily, so that 
SIMS could not get an A or MX record for it. SIMS returned a 472 
message to the attempt to send a message claiming to be from 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> which the sending MTA *misread* as a permanent 
error, bouncing the message as a result. The sending MTA *should* 
have held the message for a later retry.
-- 
Bill Cole
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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