On Saturday, December 22, 2001, at 03:50  AM, 323 wrote:

>
>
> I have been wanting to upgrade to Cgate for a while now, but keep 
> getting
> spooked by the giant price tag. I only have 500 accounts currently on my
> server, do I really need Cgate for 500-1000 users (no lists)?
>
> What features does Cgate offer over SIMS (besides the obvious bells and
> whistles)?
>
I don't know how important these are, but features we like are:

IMAP support
LDAP support
Web Mail
Users can admin their own accounts/domains.
Much better multi-domain support.
Sims isn't slow, but CGP is wicked fast.

The mailing lists are very nice.  You may not think you want them, but 
You will very likely find uses for them.  And if you are using list 
software of any kind CGP will likely compete well.

We are just now getting into the command line options to auto create 
accounts from our billing program.  this is way easier in CGP.


Having said all that, there is a new MGI admin front end for SIMS that 
looks promising. It'd give you web mail and extend SIMS usefulness quite 
a bit.  For us though IMAP was the dealbreaker.
> What is the most users that SIMS can handle with good system stability? 
> The
> only thing that concerns me if the ever growing router table. A GET 
> argument
> can only handle so much data

As Jesse alluded to before we ran into problems trying to run several 
large mackordomo lists on SIMS.  2 or three posts to a 1200 subscriber 
list would fill the queue and choke the server.  Personally, I feel this 
had more to do with OS 9 than a flaw in SIMS.  Putting 5000 files in a 
directory would just bring it to its knees.

As for the pice...  It is high, BUT stalker support has been fantastic, 
and the have never charged us for an upgrade.  If you average it out to 
the years we used SIMS for free, It's really not a bad deal.  That and 
it is seriously "best of breed' enterprise software that will not die.


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