From R. Scott Perry, received 24/3/02, 10:18 am -0500 (GMT):
>>>   Here's a list of them:
>>>
>>>   <http://www.declude.com/junkmail/support/ip4r.htm>
>>
>>Yes but a pretty awful one with a lot of incorrect info. Best is to go by
>>whatever others are using and satisfied with.
>
>  We originally started that list for our customers, but it's become the most
>  complete list of DNS-based spam databases.  We update it quite frequently,
>  whenever we receive new information, and aren't aware of any inaccuracies.
>
>  Please feel free to point out any inaccuracies, as we would be more than
>  happy to fix them.

Well, some of the text of entries I would have pointed out, have been 
updated today... so no longer relevant. For example earlier today the 
entry for the SBL (sbl.spamhaus.org) had a 'warning' against it that 
it blocked 'large IP ranges'.

In fact the SBL has extremely low collateral damage, it's extremely 
rare any normal user would find themselves blocked by the SBL (in 
fact you never see normal users complaining anywhere about being 
blocked by the SBL). However it's correct that the SBL does have a 
number of large IP ranges (/20s, /18s and a couple of /16s) but these 
all belong to major spam operations (such as Cyrunner/Transip). These 
days there a quite a few spam gangs setting up fake 'ISPs' and 
obtaining huge IP allocations from ARIN to fool their upstreams into 
giving them spam allowances. In this respect the MAPS RBL lists 
similar large ranges when they are identified and ought therefore to 
have a 'warning' too...

In comparison, lists like spambag.org and blackholes.five-ten-sg.com 
block extremely large ranges, in many case whole ISPs to 
intentionally create collateral damage, yet their entries have no 
'warning'...

To a new user unfamiliar with DNSBLs (and hence using www.declude.com 
to find the right DNSBL for them) the different descriptions for very 
similar lists would be confusing (for example, SBL does in fact block 
the same things as the MAPS RBL, only the SBL concentrates more on 
the 'professional scumbag' type spammers (the chickenboners and spam 
gangs) while MAPS tends to concentrate more on the mainstream 
'postmastergeneral' type spammers.

You could probably make things much clearer for new users just by 
grouping the DNSBLs together, into groups of spam-source, relays, 
proxies, etc.

-- 
   Steve Linford
   Ultradesign Xtreme Network
   http://www.uxn.com

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