At 8:27 PM -0700 7/16/02, Thomas Tempelmann  imposed structure on a 
stream of electrons, yielding:
>I found that a lot of the spam I get does contain any proper
>destination address in its headers.
>
>E.g, while the Log shows that there was a msg for the account
>"listuser" on my server, the headers will not contain anything
>that refers to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]".
>
>Example:
>
>A mail from this list contains this line in the header:
>
>  from mail.stalker.com ([209.1.58.249] verified) by tempel.org
>  (Stalker SMTP Server 1.8b8) with ESMTP id S.0000034935 for
>  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sun, 27 Jan 2002 10:11:17 -0800
>
>Here, the text "<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" is what I was looking for.
>But some SPAM mails do not contain this information for which
>account they were meant.

You should see that in the SIMS-added Received header of any mail 
sent to only one account.


>I have 2 thoughts:
>
>1.
>If this information is not present in the header, the only way
>to see for which account the mail was is by looking into the
>log. This is awkward. Can't this be improved in some way?

Probably not, since the case where the account is not cited anywhere 
in the headers is a case where more than one account got the mail, so 
SIMS could either put all those addresses in and announce to all the 
users who else locally is getting that mail (not good) or leave out 
any such indication as it does. The latter is a better way to go.

>2.
>Since I see this happening only with SPAM mail, can't this be
>used for another spam protection mechanism?

Not reliably. If 2 addresses on your server were getting this list, 
neither address would appear anywhere in the headers of delivered 
messages.

Beyond that. SIMS doesn't do filtering of message data, and the 
headers are technically part of the message data. SIMS only works 
with the envelope and source IP address to do filtering.

>Oh, and one more: Wouldn't it be possible (I mean easy) to
>allow me to write code that would get executed when SIMS receives
>a mail so that this code of mine could look at the mail text,
>allowing me to delete certain mail that I consider spam right
>away?

If I were to do that, I'd look first at what AutoShare does, and 
consider whether it is readily adaptable. If not, I think you could 
have account mail delivered to a folder, have an AppleScript hooked 
to changes in that folder, and  have the AppleScript handle final 
delivery into a mbox file. On the other hand, *I* wouldn't ever do 
that, since I'd see it as easier to just forward everything to 
something that can run procmail (e.g. an OSX machine)

>I guess Communigate Pro can do this, though?

Yes. CGPro has a 'rules' system that lets you do filtering on message data.
-- 
Bill Cole
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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