At 7:19 PM -0700 8/23/02, Thomas Tempelmann imposed structure on a stream of electrons, yielding: >Checking my SIMS' IP addr (mail.tempel.org) at http://www.openrbl.org/ >showed me that I had 2 _positive_ listings: > >1. SPAMBAG/pacbell: Blocked - see >http://www.spambag.org/cgi-bin/spambag?mailfrom=pacbell >2. XBL/pacbell: NETBLK-SBCIS-101219-141339/zaconta; >NETBLK-SBC-06711508012829/S1223 > >Both block me because my IP addr is part of PacBell. While PacBell may be >at fault for not being responsive about abuses, I feel that I do not >deserve to be blacklisted, but only the mail servers from PacBell.
The spam problem at PacBell/SBC is not the spam coming from their mail servers. It's a lot more complex, but basically Spambag lists entire networks whose owners fail to handle abuse complaints up to their standards. Note that nearly no one uses Spambag to block mail. It's just too inclusive. >Spambag can not be contacted about this misconfig in any way (other that >thru a mailing list, it appears), Not quite true, but the operator refers to the contact issue as an "intelligence test." If you look in the right places, you can figure out how to contact him. Google's news archive is one place to look, domain registrations are another. >and the other one does not even >identify itself. You mean XBL???? I think you must not have noticed that the OpenRBL output is all linked, so clicking on the 'XBL' of that line will take you to the XBL. It's owner identifies himself quite openly, but it is pointless to try to get delisted. He also considers SBC a bad actor, and lists their entire net. Note that the XBL's owner rather vehemently recommends that no one use his list to block mail, and even he doesn't actually block with it. It's a scoring tool. Being listed shouldn't be a problem. >Now, will everyone who uses openrbl for blacklisting automatically block >me because of these two positives out of 29 lists? That would be quite >stupid, but I just want to make sure. OpenRBL doesn't provide any facility to use their multi-list lookup as a blocking tool, in fact they have rate-limiters in place to make that unfeasible. They exist just to let people do what you did: check addresses by hand through the web form. -- Bill Cole [EMAIL PROTECTED] ############################################################# This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To switch to the INDEX mode, E-mail to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Send administrative queries to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
