At 1:01 AM +0200 8/24/02, dale's stuff imposed structure on a stream of electrons, yielding: >This topic got me interested in checking for the first time in a >long timemy mail server. > >On Friday, August 23, 2002, at 09:11 PM, Stefan Jeglinski wrote: >> >> >>>BTW, I too am on the Selwerd list, apparently because I'm in an IP block >>>owned by Qwest. >> >>No, just about *everyone* appears to be on the Selward list. Unfortunately, >> their web site does little to explain the motivation for it, and >>anyone that uses it will experience very high collateral damage >>AFAICT. I'd love to see an explanation of what the point is. > >And guess what, Selwerd also has apparently the netblock my mail >server is in listed as well. The funny thing is that they claim the >following: > >--- start --- >XBL/cw: linkexchange/listbuilder; mail to unknown user at selwerd.cx >(20010715); spam to webmaster (20010723); spam to abuse (20011108); >www.messagemedia.com; alemailmarketing; mail.project.com; scelson > >Negative 30: ABL ASS BLARS BOPM DORKS DRBL_CRO DRBL_EXP DSBL FIVETEN >FORMMAIL INTERSIL JIPPGMA LNSG NJABL NOMORE ORDB OSIRU PM0NO PROXIES >RFC_IPWH RSL SBL SPAMBAG SPAMCOP SPEWS SPFILTER WIREDYNA WIREHUB >WYTNIJTO ZTL >--- end --- > >Now what is funny is that at the time they claim to have received said spam, > those IP addresses were assigned to me, but they were unused!!! I >was still using older PSINet IP's from my co-location host. So the >IP's were not in use by anyone!
Note that the XBL does not list just individual addresses that are the source of spam, but networks where the ISP doesn't handle abuse problems adequately. It looks like in this case it's Clueless & Witless, which effectively has no AUP and will tolerate anything as long as the customer pays their bills and they don't cause too many other networks to start making depeering noises. The fact that only the XBL shows up in a check of public blacklists doesn't mean that there aren't serious blacklists out there with your address in them. C&W has impressed a lot of people with their policy incapacities, and their absorption of Exodus has only compounded the problem. -- Bill Cole [EMAIL PROTECTED] ############################################################# This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To switch to the INDEX mode, E-mail to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Send administrative queries to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
