On 12/10/02 at 17:10, Linda Pautsch wrote:
> Thanks... now, not to appear too dense, but I need some help
> understanding this.. where do you find the "return path"? From the
> offending message headers:
>
> Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Received: from [64.4.17.76] (HELO hotmail.com) by
> realimagesdesign.com (Stalker SMTP Server 1.8b8) with ESMTP id
> S.0000602203 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 01:51:23 -0500
> Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC;
> Mon, 9 Dec 2002 22:48:56 -0800
> Received: from 134.193.144.251 by lw11fd.law11.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP;
> Tue, 10 Dec 2002 06:48:56 GMT
> X-Originating-IP: [134.193.144.251]
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Is it the "Return-Path" as specified in the headers above?
Yes.
> In that case, it seems like <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>=error should work.
Yes, it should. I have several entries in my router in the same form
(<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> = error) that work fine. I think this has already
been covered in this thread but, in case it hasn't, double-check that
'Verify Return-Path' is enabled (checked) in your SMTP settings. Otherwise,
Return-Paths of incoming messages will not be passed through your router.
> Or is it something else, do I need to turn on more logging in SIMS to
> discover it?
Messages rejected due to routing to error are logged at level 1, so if your
router entry is working, it'll show up no matter what SMTP logging level
you've got set. Filter the log for 'routed to error' to find them. If it's
_not_ working, you may need to turn the logging level up to see what's
happening. You'll want to log enough detail to see the SMTP conversation
with the remote host and any associated router activity -- probably level 4
(low-level info) or 5 (all info).
> (And I can assume that the "From" entry in the headers is not the
> same as the "Mail From" address that is mentioned in the docs, which
> seems to be, from the docs, the same as the "Return-Path" address ?)
That's correct. The Return-Path is the 'envelope' sender of a message. That
is, it is the address used as the argument to the sending MTA's 'MAIL FROM'
command during the SMTP conversation when the message was transmitted. The
'From:' address in a message's headers can be anything and is not
necessarily related to the Return-Path address. There are legitimate
reasons why the Return-Path and the header 'From' might not match, but
spammer's in particular like to mix and match to throw receiving MTAs off
the scent.
> One thing I meant to mention in my first email, is that I'm using
> version 1.8b8
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Webmaster, Global Homes | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<http://www.globalhomes.com/>
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