At 6:16 AM -0800 12/1/03, Paul Didzerekis imposed structure on a stream of electrons, yielding:It seems that Verizon has setup a new system where they require that all incoming messages to their servers be authenticated by the sending SMTP server with User Authentication. This means that the Verizon servers send back a response when SIMS tries to send a message and that response requires that SIMS verify that the sender of the message is an authorized user on the SIMS server. Since SIMS does not support this all of our email sent to anyone on Verizon's email servers gets rejected.
I called Verizon when we noticed that all messages to them were getting rejected and had to keep asking for supervisors until I finally got to one that knew what the problem was. They said that it was a new policy that their engineers had implemented and that they were having a lot of complaints from other ISPs but that they were not going to change their policy. I had them escalate my complaint to the engineering department asking to be called back.
Has anyone else noticed this yet and what are we to do, can we hack SIMS using ResEdit so it sends the correct response? Can we please get Stalker to modify SIMS so it response correctly?
I am aware of this deeply stupid policy decision by the imbeciles at Verizon, but I am not clear on how SIMS is causing trouble in conjunction with it. Do you have a detailed log snippet showing what Verizon is doing to 'authenticate' the sender and how SIMS is responding badly?
You asked for it, here is a log snippet showing four messages all sent to the same person at a gte.net (same as verizon.net) email address. The three messages were generated differently.
The first message I sent to a mailing list that we host and that the intended recipient is subscribed to. This was rejected by the gte server.
The second was sent from my main email address directly through this SIMS server and was rejected by gte server.
The third was sent from the same machine through the same SIMS server as the first but using the return address of an offsite email account I have through another ISP. This message was accepted by gte server. Why, I haven't a clue. Maybe someone can tell me why and the others are all rejected?
The last message I sent to a mailing list that we host and that the intended recipient is subscribed to. This was rejected by the gte server.
I have changed the email addresses to helpfully protect them, but here is the log (logging set to ALL INFO in the SMTP settings) from the SMTP session with the GTE server:
12:03:21 5 SMTP-277() Stream Created
12:03:21 4 SMTP-277(gte.net) Got 1 relay(s)
12:03:21 5 SMTP-277(gte.net) *Status=7
12:03:21 4 SMTP-277(gte.net) Looking for relay.gte.net
12:03:21 5 SMTP-277(gte.net) *Status=9
12:03:21 5 SMTP-277(gte.net) *Status=8
12:03:21 4 SMTP-277(gte.net) Connected to [206.46.170.12:25]
12:03:21 5 SMTP-277(gte.net) *Status=10
12:03:21 5 SMTP-277(gte.net) Received 108 bytes
12:03:21 4 SMTP-277(gte.net) Input Line: 220 sc016pub.verizon.net MailPass SMTP server v1.0.6 - 111103224510JY ready Mon, 1 Dec 2003 14:04:15 -0600\r
12:03:21 4 SMTP-277(gte.net) Sending HELO 3-rivers.com\r\n
12:03:21 5 SMTP-277(gte.net) OT 19 of 19 bytes sent, Flags=0
12:03:21 5 SMTP-277(gte.net) Received 26 bytes
12:03:21 4 SMTP-277(gte.net) Input Line: 250 sc016pub.verizon.net\r
12:03:21 4 SMTP-277(gte.net) Connected
12:03:21 5 SMTP-277(gte.net) *Status=11
12:03:21 5 SMTP-277(gte.net) 3 file(s) in queue, 0 sent
12:03:21 5 SMTP-277(gte.net) *Status=12
12:03:21 4 SMTP-277(gte.net) [S.0000133373](0): MAIL From:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
12:03:21 4 SMTP-277(gte.net) Sending MAIL From:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>\r\n
12:03:21 5 SMTP-277(gte.net) OT 42 of 42 bytes sent, Flags=0
12:03:52 5 SMTP-277(gte.net) Received 68 bytes
12:03:52 4 SMTP-277(gte.net) Input Line: 450 Requested mail action not taken-Try later:sc016pub.verizon.net\r
12:03:52 1 SMTP-277(gte.net) 'From' rejected, got 450 Requested mail action not taken-Try later:sc016pub.verizon.net\r
12:03:52 5 SMTP-277(gte.net) *Status=18
12:03:52 5 SMTP-277(gte.net) Releasing file 0, sent->1
12:03:52 5 SMTP-277(gte.net) *Status=11
12:03:52 5 SMTP-277(gte.net) 3 file(s) in queue, 0 sent
12:03:52 4 SMTP-277(gte.net) Sending RSET\r\n
12:03:52 5 SMTP-277(gte.net) OT 6 of 6 bytes sent, Flags=0
12:03:52 5 SMTP-277(gte.net) Received 24 bytes
12:03:52 4 SMTP-277(gte.net) Input Line: 250 Ok resetting state\r
12:03:52 5 SMTP-277(gte.net) *Status=12
12:03:52 4 SMTP-277(gte.net) [S.0000133551](1): MAIL From:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
12:03:52 4 SMTP-277(gte.net) Sending MAIL From:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>\r\n
12:03:52 5 SMTP-277(gte.net) OT 37 of 37 bytes sent, Flags=0
12:04:52 5 SMTP-277(gte.net) Received 68 bytes
12:04:52 4 SMTP-277(gte.net) Input Line: 450 Requested mail action not taken-Try later:sc016pub.verizon.net\r
12:04:52 1 SMTP-277(gte.net) 'From' rejected, got 450 Requested mail action not taken-Try later:sc016pub.verizon.net\r
12:04:52 5 SMTP-277(gte.net) *Status=18
12:04:52 5 SMTP-277(gte.net) Releasing file 1, sent->1
12:04:52 5 SMTP-277(gte.net) *Status=11
12:04:52 5 SMTP-277(gte.net) 2 file(s) in queue, 0 sent
12:04:52 4 SMTP-277(gte.net) Sending RSET\r\n
12:04:52 5 SMTP-277(gte.net) OT 6 of 6 bytes sent, Flags=0
12:04:53 5 SMTP-277(gte.net) Received 24 bytes
12:04:53 4 SMTP-277(gte.net) Input Line: 250 Ok resetting state\r
12:04:53 5 SMTP-277(gte.net) *Status=12
12:04:53 4 SMTP-277(gte.net) [S.0000133552](2): MAIL From:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
12:04:53 4 SMTP-277(gte.net) Sending MAIL From:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>\r\n
12:04:53 5 SMTP-277(gte.net) OT 35 of 35 bytes sent, Flags=0
12:04:53 5 SMTP-277(gte.net) Received 39 bytes
12:04:53 4 SMTP-277(gte.net) Input Line: 250 Sender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> OK\r
12:04:53 5 SMTP-277(gte.net) *Status=13
12:04:53 4 SMTP-277(gte.net) Sending RCPT To:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>\r\n
12:04:53 5 SMTP-277(gte.net) OT 26 of 26 bytes sent, Flags=0
12:04:53 5 SMTP-277(gte.net) Received 35 bytes
12:04:53 4 SMTP-277(gte.net) Input Line: 250 Recipient <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ok\r
12:04:53 5 SMTP-277(gte.net) *Status=15
12:04:53 4 SMTP-277(gte.net) Sending DATA\r\n
12:04:53 5 SMTP-277(gte.net) OT 6 of 6 bytes sent, Flags=0
12:04:53 5 SMTP-277(gte.net) Received 44 bytes
12:04:53 4 SMTP-277(gte.net) Input Line: 354 Ok Send data ending with <CRLF>.<CRLF>\r
12:04:53 5 SMTP-277(gte.net) *Status=16
12:04:53 5 SMTP-277(gte.net) Sending 554 bytes: Received: from [63.95.200.102] ([63.95.200.102] verified)\r\n by 3-rivers.com (Stalker SMTP Server 1.8b9d14)\r\n with ESMTP id S.0000133552 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Mon, 01 Dec 2003 11:53:52 -0800\r\nM
12:04:53 5 SMTP-277(gte.net) OT 554 of 554 bytes sent, Flags=1
12:04:53 4 SMTP-277(gte.net) Sending .\r\n
12:04:53 5 SMTP-277(gte.net) OT 3 of 3 bytes sent, Flags=0
12:04:53 5 SMTP-277(gte.net) *Status=17
12:04:53 5 SMTP-277(gte.net) Received 79 bytes
12:04:53 4 SMTP-277(gte.net) Input Line: 250 Message received: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
12:04:53 2 SMTP-277(gte.net) [S.0000133552] sent, 537 bytes
12:04:53 5 SMTP-277(gte.net) Releasing file 2, sent->1
12:04:53 5 SMTP-277(gte.net) *Status=11
12:04:53 5 SMTP-277(gte.net) 2 file(s) in queue, 1 sent
12:04:53 4 SMTP-277(gte.net) Sending RSET\r\n
12:04:53 5 SMTP-277(gte.net) OT 6 of 6 bytes sent, Flags=0
12:04:54 5 SMTP-277(gte.net) Received 24 bytes
12:04:54 4 SMTP-277(gte.net) Input Line: 250 Ok resetting state\r
12:04:54 5 SMTP-277(gte.net) *Status=12
12:04:54 4 SMTP-277(gte.net) [S.0000133542](3): MAIL From:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
12:04:54 4 SMTP-277(gte.net) Sending MAIL From:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>\r\n
12:04:54 5 SMTP-277(gte.net) OT 42 of 42 bytes sent, Flags=0
12:04:54 5 SMTP-277(gte.net) Received 68 bytes
12:04:54 4 SMTP-277(gte.net) Input Line: 450 Requested mail action not taken-Try later:sc016pub.verizon.net\r
12:04:54 1 SMTP-277(gte.net) 'From' rejected, got 450 Requested mail action not taken-Try later:sc016pub.verizon.net\r
12:04:54 5 SMTP-277(gte.net) *Status=18
12:04:54 5 SMTP-277(gte.net) Releasing file 3, sent->1
12:04:54 5 SMTP-277(gte.net) *Status=11
12:05:05 5 SMTP-277(gte.net) *Status=4
12:05:05 4 SMTP-277(gte.net) Sending QUIT\r\n
12:05:05 5 SMTP-277(gte.net) OT 6 of 6 bytes sent, Flags=0
12:05:05 5 SMTP-277(gte.net) *Status=1
12:05:05 5 SMTP-277(gte.net) Received 45 bytes
12:05:05 5 SMTP-277(gte.net) Disconnect Received
12:05:05 5 SMTP-277(gte.net) Disconnect Confirmed
12:05:05 4 SMTP-277(gte.net) Input Line: 221 sc016pub.verizon.net closing connection\r
12:05:05 4 SMTP-277(gte.net) Closing
12:05:05 4 SMTP-277(gte.net) Nothing read - stream closed
12:05:05 4 SMTP-277(gte.net) Input Stream ended
12:05:05 5 SMTP-277(gte.net) *Status=2
12:05:05 5 SMTP-277(gte.net) Stream Disposed
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