Re: Spam approach

[Alex von Thorn]

SPEWS generates huge numbers of false positives. They don't respond 
rationally to evidenced that spammer's accounts have been deleted and they 
will block huge netblocks that affect many innocent people. There's a porn 
spammer that changes names and moves from network to network around here. 
SPEWS has blacklisted several large networks as a result, and also 
blacklists other networks and web design companies who have had the 
misfortune of ever being colocated in the same space.

I will stomp on spammers as hard as anybody, but I make an effort not to 
block innocent parties.



At 04:43 PM 12/16/2003, Lewis Butler wrote:
On Dec 16, 2003, at 12:54 PM, Clement Ross wrote:
To use a word that is popular these days, they are extremists. I know
I'm stating the obvious here but one thing I learned is that you must
never *ever* get listed on any BL, specially SPEWS.  It's easy to get on
but they make it very hard to get off.
Maybe things have changed?  I was listed once in spews and getting off was 
not difficult.  Simply took a post from the admin at my co-lo ISP saying 
the account and website in question had been removed.

This was a "collateral" listing where neither the spam nor the website 
spammed had anything to do with my isp, but rather the spammer owned 
another domain and website.

I would _never_ use spews as a blacklist, but I allow SA to use it in its 
tests for spamishness.

--
How you have felt, o men of Athens, at hearing the speeches of my 
accusers, I cannot tell; but I know that their persuasive words almost 
made me forget who I was, such was the effect of the,; and yet they have 
hardly spoken a word of truth.

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